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		By: Mrs. Right		</title>
		<link>https://hotholyhumorous.com/2011/10/17/two-wives-candid-conversation-about-masturbation/#comment-3515</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mrs. Right]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I guess I should have read this post before replying to the follow-up post (I&#039;m reading my way through your blog backwards).  :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yup, I agree that it can be either good or bad, depending upon the relationship quality and individual circumstances.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I should have read this post before replying to the follow-up post (I&#8217;m reading my way through your blog backwards).  🙂</p>
<p>Yup, I agree that it can be either good or bad, depending upon the relationship quality and individual circumstances.</p>
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		By: TC Thompson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TC Thompson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 17:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My husband and I practice mutual masterbation. We actually call these &quot;cum wars&quot;. He will stimulate me and I him and we see who can make who climax first. Win! Win! Situation. I am very visual and love seeing him masturbate...BUT only when I am there. We have sex so often that we don&#039;t give each other the opportunity to do it alone. ha, ha. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I believe that if you are not involving your spouse, physically or &quot;spirituall&quot;, you should not be masturbating. (By &quot;spiritually&quot;, I mean if it is not your spouse that you are envisioning or sexting or talking to, while you are masturabating, it is wrong).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband and I practice mutual masterbation. We actually call these &#8220;cum wars&#8221;. He will stimulate me and I him and we see who can make who climax first. Win! Win! Situation. I am very visual and love seeing him masturbate&#8230;BUT only when I am there. We have sex so often that we don&#8217;t give each other the opportunity to do it alone. ha, ha. </p>
<p>I believe that if you are not involving your spouse, physically or &#8220;spirituall&#8221;, you should not be masturbating. (By &#8220;spiritually&#8221;, I mean if it is not your spouse that you are envisioning or sexting or talking to, while you are masturabating, it is wrong).</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[After marrying my husband the desire to engage in solitary sexual activity was non existent.  However, he accepted a job that meant we were to be separated temporarily for three straight months.  After month one I had a strong urge to take care of things myself, and then did so in spurts throughout that entire month.  Thankfully, I have never had any trouble keeping the focus on him during the solo act.  In fact I think it would be a huge turn off for me to involve anything or person outside of him and I in a fantasy. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; For the third month I have decided to restrain from relieving myself of sexual tensions, as I had not discussed this topic with my husband before he left and do not know where he stands (although I find it hard to believe that he could get too upset when his wife informs him that the thought of him gave her the desire to masturbate while fantasizing about him) I will have no trouble opening up about it once he is back, but find such a topic too awkward to address on the phone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After marrying my husband the desire to engage in solitary sexual activity was non existent.  However, he accepted a job that meant we were to be separated temporarily for three straight months.  After month one I had a strong urge to take care of things myself, and then did so in spurts throughout that entire month.  Thankfully, I have never had any trouble keeping the focus on him during the solo act.  In fact I think it would be a huge turn off for me to involve anything or person outside of him and I in a fantasy. </p>
<p> For the third month I have decided to restrain from relieving myself of sexual tensions, as I had not discussed this topic with my husband before he left and do not know where he stands (although I find it hard to believe that he could get too upset when his wife informs him that the thought of him gave her the desire to masturbate while fantasizing about him) I will have no trouble opening up about it once he is back, but find such a topic too awkward to address on the phone.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My sex drive is higher than my wife&#039;s.  She sometimes offers &quot;quickies&quot; for my sake, which requires clean up on her part. One night a while back she was facing the other way in bed and getting too relaxed for me to feel good about imposing the required clean up routine on her.  I decided to move right up against her, on my back, knees up, one leg laying against hers. I decided to pleasure myself with a clean tee shirt draped there to keep things dry.  I grasped her bottom with one hand. I wanted it to be obvious to her what was happening. I needed release and didn&#039;t want it to be a solitary experience.  She didn&#039;t object at all and it was a different type of intimacy than we had experienced.  Seems like a nice way to meet everyone&#039;s needs and keep it in the marriage context.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sex drive is higher than my wife&#8217;s.  She sometimes offers &#8220;quickies&#8221; for my sake, which requires clean up on her part. One night a while back she was facing the other way in bed and getting too relaxed for me to feel good about imposing the required clean up routine on her.  I decided to move right up against her, on my back, knees up, one leg laying against hers. I decided to pleasure myself with a clean tee shirt draped there to keep things dry.  I grasped her bottom with one hand. I wanted it to be obvious to her what was happening. I needed release and didn&#8217;t want it to be a solitary experience.  She didn&#8217;t object at all and it was a different type of intimacy than we had experienced.  Seems like a nice way to meet everyone&#8217;s needs and keep it in the marriage context.</p>
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		By: thepurebed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thepurebed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 17:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This a great and greatly needed conversation in the Christian community and we applaud you for the manner in which you&#039;ve undertaken it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At The Pure Bed, we believe masturbation can offer as much as it can take away.  The question for any believer is really two fold: 1.In principle (scripture, conscience, faith, conviction), is it generally permissible for someone to masturbate in this situation? 2.But is it the best choice for me?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If question 1 gets a yes, question 2 must also get a yes before we proceed.  These choices are consequential and must be made in ways that preserve the integrity of our Christian witness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Awesome posts on masturbation...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This a great and greatly needed conversation in the Christian community and we applaud you for the manner in which you&#8217;ve undertaken it.</p>
<p>At The Pure Bed, we believe masturbation can offer as much as it can take away.  The question for any believer is really two fold: 1.In principle (scripture, conscience, faith, conviction), is it generally permissible for someone to masturbate in this situation? 2.But is it the best choice for me?</p>
<p>If question 1 gets a yes, question 2 must also get a yes before we proceed.  These choices are consequential and must be made in ways that preserve the integrity of our Christian witness.</p>
<p>Awesome posts on masturbation&#8230;</p>
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		By: Alecia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alecia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great job on these posts ladies! I appreciate that you were willing to tackle this sensitive topic. I also specifically appreciated some of the things that you shared. Although I can see a need for masturbation at times within the marriage relationship, I believe unless you are careful to set up proper boundaries around this act that it can easily become a replacement, or just like with porn if it is used too frequently it can change our bodies sensitivities and change our abilities to climax in other ways - such as with our spouse in intercourse. I (personal confession coming here...) learned how to masturbate at a fairly young age through romance novels and fantasy and as a result I truly believe it was one of the biggest factors in it taking 12 YEARS of marriage to figure out how to climax WITH my husband. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You both have made some excellent points. I have to say I agree with most of them. But it also makes me leery to advocate anything that can so easily escalate to other things by becoming a selfish non-intimate act in solitude and secrecy or creating compulsions or addictions in us that otherwise wouldn&#039;t be there. It definitely is something that is between each couple in their own marriage but it is something that people need to take great care in engaging in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job on these posts ladies! I appreciate that you were willing to tackle this sensitive topic. I also specifically appreciated some of the things that you shared. Although I can see a need for masturbation at times within the marriage relationship, I believe unless you are careful to set up proper boundaries around this act that it can easily become a replacement, or just like with porn if it is used too frequently it can change our bodies sensitivities and change our abilities to climax in other ways &#8211; such as with our spouse in intercourse. I (personal confession coming here&#8230;) learned how to masturbate at a fairly young age through romance novels and fantasy and as a result I truly believe it was one of the biggest factors in it taking 12 YEARS of marriage to figure out how to climax WITH my husband. </p>
<p>You both have made some excellent points. I have to say I agree with most of them. But it also makes me leery to advocate anything that can so easily escalate to other things by becoming a selfish non-intimate act in solitude and secrecy or creating compulsions or addictions in us that otherwise wouldn&#8217;t be there. It definitely is something that is between each couple in their own marriage but it is something that people need to take great care in engaging in.</p>
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		By: J		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To Anonymous/V.V. - It&#039;s interesting that you pulled out that one phrase...because I hovered over the word &quot;rare&quot; for a long time before pressing Post Comment. People could define rare all kinds of ways. Perhaps I misspoke. I should clarify.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m saying that any masturbation should be beneficial to the relationship. From that standard, masturbating when your spouse is unavailable for long periods of time could be beneficial to the marriage in keeping stress levels down and a spouse&#039;s eyes off others. So it could foster the relationship indeed. On the other hand, frequent masturbation can become habitual, linked to imagery of others, or take your thoughts generally off the relationship and onto your own pleasure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am not passing judgment on anyone. I sincerely believe that couples and individuals must make their own decision in this area. Much of the issue involves heart/attitude, so only the people involved can know what that is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By the way, I don&#039;t know what your theology is on this, but my own opinion is that the Bible can guide us to make wise decisions by applying its principles even in specific areas about which it is silent.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you so much for your feedback...and getting me to revisit my own words to be clearer. The open discussion here is wonderful!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Anonymous/V.V. &#8211; It&#8217;s interesting that you pulled out that one phrase&#8230;because I hovered over the word &#8220;rare&#8221; for a long time before pressing Post Comment. People could define rare all kinds of ways. Perhaps I misspoke. I should clarify.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m saying that any masturbation should be beneficial to the relationship. From that standard, masturbating when your spouse is unavailable for long periods of time could be beneficial to the marriage in keeping stress levels down and a spouse&#8217;s eyes off others. So it could foster the relationship indeed. On the other hand, frequent masturbation can become habitual, linked to imagery of others, or take your thoughts generally off the relationship and onto your own pleasure.</p>
<p>I am not passing judgment on anyone. I sincerely believe that couples and individuals must make their own decision in this area. Much of the issue involves heart/attitude, so only the people involved can know what that is.</p>
<p>By the way, I don&#8217;t know what your theology is on this, but my own opinion is that the Bible can guide us to make wise decisions by applying its principles even in specific areas about which it is silent.</p>
<p>Thank you so much for your feedback&#8230;and getting me to revisit my own words to be clearer. The open discussion here is wonderful!!!</p>
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		By: Paul Byerly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Byerly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 03:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ladies - good job! Great post, thanks so much. (Praying for the onslaught in our e-mail!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ladies &#8211; good job! Great post, thanks so much. (Praying for the onslaught in our e-mail!)</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 02:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love this blog, and I usually agree with you. However, I disagree on a specific point with your advice to the first &quot;Anonymous,&quot; when you said &quot;if you do masturbate, make it rare.&quot; If the guy has a much higher sex drive than the wife, I see no problem with masturbation helping him through this problem. Masturbation a substitute for sex and he&#039;s not getting any through no fault of his own. How often he does it can depend on factors like sex drive, stress level, etc. If his wife is not making herself available to him, and then makes him feel bad for masturbating-- that&#039;s just adding insult to injury. I can understand saying that you shouldn&#039;t get addicted to masturbation or shouldn&#039;t prefer it, but saying you can&#039;t do it when you need to sounds unnecessarily restrictive. The Bible is completely silent on this, so I don&#039;t think we can pass judgement. -V.V]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this blog, and I usually agree with you. However, I disagree on a specific point with your advice to the first &#8220;Anonymous,&#8221; when you said &#8220;if you do masturbate, make it rare.&#8221; If the guy has a much higher sex drive than the wife, I see no problem with masturbation helping him through this problem. Masturbation a substitute for sex and he&#8217;s not getting any through no fault of his own. How often he does it can depend on factors like sex drive, stress level, etc. If his wife is not making herself available to him, and then makes him feel bad for masturbating&#8211; that&#8217;s just adding insult to injury. I can understand saying that you shouldn&#8217;t get addicted to masturbation or shouldn&#8217;t prefer it, but saying you can&#8217;t do it when you need to sounds unnecessarily restrictive. The Bible is completely silent on this, so I don&#8217;t think we can pass judgement. -V.V</p>
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		By: Julie Sibert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julie Sibert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 02:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well stated J.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I feel bad for you Anonymous that your wife does not understand the depth of pain she is causing by not valuing sexual intimacy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m wondering what would happen if you calmly tell your wife that your desire for sex with her is first and foremost because you love her -- but that it is also because sex feels good.  You could go on to say that while you would prefer more of that kind of intimacy in your marriage, if she is not willing, then you will masturbate.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your tone obviously needs to be loving, and at the same time emphasize that you don&#039;t want to hide anything from her.  Share as well that you will continue to pray that the two of you together will get to a place where you both nurture sex in your relationship -- and that you are open to counseling at any time -- because you care so deeply about your marriage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obviously, you need to continue to ask for God&#039;s wisdom, as well as take captive any tendencies to allow your thought life to go to a place of fantasizing about other women.  That obviously wouldn&#039;t be good for your marriage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I echo what J says -- you are in a tough situation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well stated J.</p>
<p>I feel bad for you Anonymous that your wife does not understand the depth of pain she is causing by not valuing sexual intimacy.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering what would happen if you calmly tell your wife that your desire for sex with her is first and foremost because you love her &#8212; but that it is also because sex feels good.  You could go on to say that while you would prefer more of that kind of intimacy in your marriage, if she is not willing, then you will masturbate.  </p>
<p>Your tone obviously needs to be loving, and at the same time emphasize that you don&#8217;t want to hide anything from her.  Share as well that you will continue to pray that the two of you together will get to a place where you both nurture sex in your relationship &#8212; and that you are open to counseling at any time &#8212; because you care so deeply about your marriage.</p>
<p>Obviously, you need to continue to ask for God&#8217;s wisdom, as well as take captive any tendencies to allow your thought life to go to a place of fantasizing about other women.  That obviously wouldn&#8217;t be good for your marriage.</p>
<p>I echo what J says &#8212; you are in a tough situation.</p>
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