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		By: 5 Ways to Get Your Church to Address Sex &#124; Hot, Holy &#38; Humorous		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] &#8220;You need to have more sex for your husband.&#8221; Um, how about more sex for your husband and you, since God made it a mutual thing we gals are also supposed to really [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		By: J		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 17:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2018/02/05/sex-is-for-you-too/#comment-69951&quot;&gt;Roydon Loewen&lt;/a&gt;.

So she hates sex, and you continue doing it to her when she says to just do it, and then you&#039;re mad because it&#039;s not intimate? It seems like your responses are making the situation even harder for her. And most wives need to feel safe and secure in the marriage bed to participate and enjoy the experience: &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2011/11/safety-vulnerability-in-the-bedroom/&quot; rel=&quot;noopener&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Safety &amp; Vulnerability in the Bedroom&lt;/a&gt;

The issue seems to me to be less about you getting the frequency and kind of sex you want (understandable but selfish goal) and you helping her figure out how to enjoy the experience of sexual intimacy. I agree that a counselor would be a good step for you to take. That could help you figure out positive ways to proceed. Many blessings as you move forward!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2018/02/05/sex-is-for-you-too/#comment-69951">Roydon Loewen</a>.</p>
<p>So she hates sex, and you continue doing it to her when she says to just do it, and then you&#8217;re mad because it&#8217;s not intimate? It seems like your responses are making the situation even harder for her. And most wives need to feel safe and secure in the marriage bed to participate and enjoy the experience: <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2011/11/safety-vulnerability-in-the-bedroom/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Safety &#038; Vulnerability in the Bedroom</a></p>
<p>The issue seems to me to be less about you getting the frequency and kind of sex you want (understandable but selfish goal) and you helping her figure out how to enjoy the experience of sexual intimacy. I agree that a counselor would be a good step for you to take. That could help you figure out positive ways to proceed. Many blessings as you move forward!</p>
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		By: Roydon Loewen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roydon Loewen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2018 08:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2018/02/05/sex-is-for-you-too/#comment-69134&quot;&gt;J&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi, I&#039;m looking for a counselor sometimes.  I like regular Sex very much actually I like to do it almost every day, it gives me a more positive day  I&#039;m the higher drive spouse! And it seems like my wife just doesn&#039;t like sex that much, some times it feels like she even hates sex. And then some times she says, well just do it and then we&#039;re over with it. That hurts because that&#039;s not intimate, or she just doesn&#039;t want it at all what do I have to do then. And sometimes I&#039;m getting mad about it what do I do?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2018/02/05/sex-is-for-you-too/#comment-69134">J</a>.</p>
<p>Hi, I&#8217;m looking for a counselor sometimes.  I like regular Sex very much actually I like to do it almost every day, it gives me a more positive day  I&#8217;m the higher drive spouse! And it seems like my wife just doesn&#8217;t like sex that much, some times it feels like she even hates sex. And then some times she says, well just do it and then we&#8217;re over with it. That hurts because that&#8217;s not intimate, or she just doesn&#8217;t want it at all what do I have to do then. And sometimes I&#8217;m getting mad about it what do I do?</p>
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		By: J		</title>
		<link>https://hotholyhumorous.com/2018/02/05/sex-is-for-you-too/#comment-69595</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2018 16:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2018/02/05/sex-is-for-you-too/#comment-69263&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

I think you should seek other counsel, perhaps a different pastor, mentor, or counselor. You need to do something to change the dynamic in your marriage. Praying for you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2018/02/05/sex-is-for-you-too/#comment-69263">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>I think you should seek other counsel, perhaps a different pastor, mentor, or counselor. You need to do something to change the dynamic in your marriage. Praying for you.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2018 23:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2018/02/05/sex-is-for-you-too/#comment-69132&quot;&gt;Thomas Smith&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree about some of the churches always make the wife to feel guilty. I have been married for few months now. My husband hates sex since the beginning, for him to try (and most of the time unsuccessful) once per fortnight, it&#039;s a big burden for him. One day I asked him why to develop any kind of spiritual and physical intimacy was such a burden for him. He said there was a very attractive woman  on his mind, and it stop him for desiring me. I felt broken heart after that, my marriage for me was destroyed that day. We went to look from wisdom from the Pastor .The Pastor heard the story I just told and said that the fact I ask him why he doesn&#039;t want develop intimacy shows insecurity. And he completed saying in front of my husband that a insecure wife was really unatractive. I have never been a insecure person. People who knows me well, my family and my friends can comfirm that. But my husband keep using this against me since he heard from the Pastor. We live in marriage with no intimacy at all. My husband is really happy about our marriage, because I try my best to be kind with him despite all my unhappiness. He has someone who he can present for people as wife. He likes to live the &quot;appearance&quot; marriage. But I feel I live in marriage where I am used for his purpose. A marriage that is prison for me. I ask God for strength everyday to keep going in life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2018/02/05/sex-is-for-you-too/#comment-69132">Thomas Smith</a>.</p>
<p>I agree about some of the churches always make the wife to feel guilty. I have been married for few months now. My husband hates sex since the beginning, for him to try (and most of the time unsuccessful) once per fortnight, it&#8217;s a big burden for him. One day I asked him why to develop any kind of spiritual and physical intimacy was such a burden for him. He said there was a very attractive woman  on his mind, and it stop him for desiring me. I felt broken heart after that, my marriage for me was destroyed that day. We went to look from wisdom from the Pastor .The Pastor heard the story I just told and said that the fact I ask him why he doesn&#8217;t want develop intimacy shows insecurity. And he completed saying in front of my husband that a insecure wife was really unatractive. I have never been a insecure person. People who knows me well, my family and my friends can comfirm that. But my husband keep using this against me since he heard from the Pastor. We live in marriage with no intimacy at all. My husband is really happy about our marriage, because I try my best to be kind with him despite all my unhappiness. He has someone who he can present for people as wife. He likes to live the &#8220;appearance&#8221; marriage. But I feel I live in marriage where I am used for his purpose. A marriage that is prison for me. I ask God for strength everyday to keep going in life.</p>
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		By: Eric V		</title>
		<link>https://hotholyhumorous.com/2018/02/05/sex-is-for-you-too/#comment-69151</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric V]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2018 03:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2018/02/05/sex-is-for-you-too/#comment-69132&quot;&gt;Thomas Smith&lt;/a&gt;.

I guess I go to a different denomination than most of the people here.
I&#039;ve rarely heard any sermons that discussed marital intimacy and none that said it was mostly or mainly for men. Even in our pre-marriage course, sex was only barely discussed.

That&#039;s still pretty much the case.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2018/02/05/sex-is-for-you-too/#comment-69132">Thomas Smith</a>.</p>
<p>I guess I go to a different denomination than most of the people here.<br />
I&#8217;ve rarely heard any sermons that discussed marital intimacy and none that said it was mostly or mainly for men. Even in our pre-marriage course, sex was only barely discussed.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s still pretty much the case.</p>
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		By: T		</title>
		<link>https://hotholyhumorous.com/2018/02/05/sex-is-for-you-too/#comment-69136</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2018 19:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2018/02/05/sex-is-for-you-too/#comment-69134&quot;&gt;J&lt;/a&gt;.

We’ve been to marriage counseling, he’s been to a sexual addiction counselor (went twice), he’s also been to sex addicts anonymous and got a lot out of it for the first month or so. After that he felt it was just a bunch of people trying to impress the facilitator who happened to be the guy who started the whole organization. We stopped marriage counseling because he felt it was all about him needing to change and I didn’t need to do anything. While I agree she focused more on him, his behavior was much more damaging and he did have more changing to do. He just doesn’t like being told he is in the wrong. I have continued counseling on my own and have benefited from it. I hope to eventually get him to see the counselor I’m seeing. I like his approach a lot better than the marriage counselor we saw and while he isn’t a marriage counselor he takes a whole family approach which I think would benefit our marriage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2018/02/05/sex-is-for-you-too/#comment-69134">J</a>.</p>
<p>We’ve been to marriage counseling, he’s been to a sexual addiction counselor (went twice), he’s also been to sex addicts anonymous and got a lot out of it for the first month or so. After that he felt it was just a bunch of people trying to impress the facilitator who happened to be the guy who started the whole organization. We stopped marriage counseling because he felt it was all about him needing to change and I didn’t need to do anything. While I agree she focused more on him, his behavior was much more damaging and he did have more changing to do. He just doesn’t like being told he is in the wrong. I have continued counseling on my own and have benefited from it. I hope to eventually get him to see the counselor I’m seeing. I like his approach a lot better than the marriage counselor we saw and while he isn’t a marriage counselor he takes a whole family approach which I think would benefit our marriage.</p>
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		By: J		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2018 17:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2018/02/05/sex-is-for-you-too/#comment-69131&quot;&gt;T&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh, I just want to hug you. How difficult that discovery must have been! He clearly has some wrong views about sexuality. Yes, sex is highly related to intimacy, but sometimes people seek sex as a way to feel false intimacy and acceptance. He needs to continue his journey to get to a place of seeing sex the God way created it for marriage.

And if you haven&#039;t been in counseling, you might consider that too. You need support for what you&#039;ve gone through.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2018/02/05/sex-is-for-you-too/#comment-69131">T</a>.</p>
<p>Oh, I just want to hug you. How difficult that discovery must have been! He clearly has some wrong views about sexuality. Yes, sex is highly related to intimacy, but sometimes people seek sex as a way to feel false intimacy and acceptance. He needs to continue his journey to get to a place of seeing sex the God way created it for marriage.</p>
<p>And if you haven&#8217;t been in counseling, you might consider that too. You need support for what you&#8217;ve gone through.</p>
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		By: Thomas Smith		</title>
		<link>https://hotholyhumorous.com/2018/02/05/sex-is-for-you-too/#comment-69132</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2018 15:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2018/02/05/sex-is-for-you-too/#comment-69126&quot;&gt;Lisa&lt;/a&gt;.

Lisa, wow, I like what you said about how our culture treats boys and young men.  That is very enlightening to me.  As a guy, I&#039;m taught that the only type of physical affection I need is sexual.  Yes, girls hug and touch each other, but boys are taught that they don&#039;t need physical affection.  So that&#039;s likely one reason guys are so extra-sexual (only one reason though :-) ).  And right - we are starved for intimacy and affection - and sex seems to be our only outlet.  Wow - what you wrote seems like a revelation for me.  Thanks.

I would disagree with you though about churches teaching that men need sex more.  Granted that the percentage of wives with a higher sex drive is rising, it still lags behind men.  Until and unless it hits 50% or more, I think churches (and society) will always feel that men need sex more than women do.  And why wouldn&#039;t they?  If the percentage is less than 50%, it&#039;s natural to conclude that (on average) men need and desire sex more than women.  It may not be true, but it&#039;s natural to conclude that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2018/02/05/sex-is-for-you-too/#comment-69126">Lisa</a>.</p>
<p>Lisa, wow, I like what you said about how our culture treats boys and young men.  That is very enlightening to me.  As a guy, I&#8217;m taught that the only type of physical affection I need is sexual.  Yes, girls hug and touch each other, but boys are taught that they don&#8217;t need physical affection.  So that&#8217;s likely one reason guys are so extra-sexual (only one reason though 🙂 ).  And right &#8211; we are starved for intimacy and affection &#8211; and sex seems to be our only outlet.  Wow &#8211; what you wrote seems like a revelation for me.  Thanks.</p>
<p>I would disagree with you though about churches teaching that men need sex more.  Granted that the percentage of wives with a higher sex drive is rising, it still lags behind men.  Until and unless it hits 50% or more, I think churches (and society) will always feel that men need sex more than women do.  And why wouldn&#8217;t they?  If the percentage is less than 50%, it&#8217;s natural to conclude that (on average) men need and desire sex more than women.  It may not be true, but it&#8217;s natural to conclude that.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2018 13:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seeing sex as intimacy is difficult for me. My husband used to always talk about wanting more intimacy in our marriage, I equated that to sex. So I was the one misunderstanding what he meant. But when he complained about intimacy he also complained about the amount (lack) of sex the we were having. At that point it was 2 times a week and he traveled five days a week for work so I thought we were doing pretty darn good. Then I discovered he had met someone in the city his assignment was in. That discovery led to finding out she wasn’t the only one. She was his long term affair and there were other one nighters or short term in addition. I figured at one point he has getting it somewhere at least 5-6 times a week and still said he wasn’t getting enough sex. Of course when he said that I thought he was just having sex with me. Looking back and realizing all this and reading blogs like this I realized that it wasn’t me that was the issue, it was him. He had a sex addiction. All that to say it’s so hard for me to equate the oneness of husband and wife through sex and seeing it as building intimacy in marriage. We’ve worked through much of this, he has sought help but I suspect still struggles more than he will admit. But still as far as physical affection goes, he pushes everything to lead to sex. He won’t cuddle on the couch or snuggle in bed. I long for talks that don’t involve work, what someone I don’t know said on Facebook that he disagrees with, the latest political controversy, etc. I want that physical connection, I want that emotional connection, I want to experience intimacy. I just don’t know what it really looks like anymore. I read blogs like this to help understand. And I do in theory. I just want it in reality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing sex as intimacy is difficult for me. My husband used to always talk about wanting more intimacy in our marriage, I equated that to sex. So I was the one misunderstanding what he meant. But when he complained about intimacy he also complained about the amount (lack) of sex the we were having. At that point it was 2 times a week and he traveled five days a week for work so I thought we were doing pretty darn good. Then I discovered he had met someone in the city his assignment was in. That discovery led to finding out she wasn’t the only one. She was his long term affair and there were other one nighters or short term in addition. I figured at one point he has getting it somewhere at least 5-6 times a week and still said he wasn’t getting enough sex. Of course when he said that I thought he was just having sex with me. Looking back and realizing all this and reading blogs like this I realized that it wasn’t me that was the issue, it was him. He had a sex addiction. All that to say it’s so hard for me to equate the oneness of husband and wife through sex and seeing it as building intimacy in marriage. We’ve worked through much of this, he has sought help but I suspect still struggles more than he will admit. But still as far as physical affection goes, he pushes everything to lead to sex. He won’t cuddle on the couch or snuggle in bed. I long for talks that don’t involve work, what someone I don’t know said on Facebook that he disagrees with, the latest political controversy, etc. I want that physical connection, I want that emotional connection, I want to experience intimacy. I just don’t know what it really looks like anymore. I read blogs like this to help understand. And I do in theory. I just want it in reality.</p>
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