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		By: J		</title>
		<link>https://hotholyhumorous.com/2021/08/09/do-we-live-in-a-rape-culture/#comment-105039</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2022 16:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2021/08/09/do-we-live-in-a-rape-culture/#comment-105038&quot;&gt;Charlie O.&lt;/a&gt;.

As I said in the comments, the 1-in-4 sexual assaults on college campuses is a debated statistic, but even if it were highly inflated, there are still far too many rapes. And I would contend that many parents don&#039;t know their daughter (or son) was raped if it didn&#039;t get reported, and a lot of date rapes in particular do not get reported. There&#039;s some truth to what you say about drunk people showing poor judgment, and consent can be a little dodgy to determine in such circumstances, but even drunk, there shouldn&#039;t be any kind of force. (See Kevin A. Thompson&#039;s excellent post, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.kevinathompson.com/what-a-drunk-girl-deserves/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;noopener nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;What a Drunk Girl Deserves&lt;/a&gt;.)

Finally, I really wish some people would understanding the impact of this kind of pushback when we start talking about rape. I agree with you that &quot;Forcible rape should be vigorously investigated and prosecuted!&quot; and yes, we need to ensure fair treatment of all involved. But when the bulk of what someone says comes across as &quot;But was she drunk?&quot; it has a chilling effect on women reporting rape that cannot be easily and perfectly proved. And I think we as a society want better. (You can see this discussion in the comments here.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2021/08/09/do-we-live-in-a-rape-culture/#comment-105038">Charlie O.</a>.</p>
<p>As I said in the comments, the 1-in-4 sexual assaults on college campuses is a debated statistic, but even if it were highly inflated, there are still far too many rapes. And I would contend that many parents don&#8217;t know their daughter (or son) was raped if it didn&#8217;t get reported, and a lot of date rapes in particular do not get reported. There&#8217;s some truth to what you say about drunk people showing poor judgment, and consent can be a little dodgy to determine in such circumstances, but even drunk, there shouldn&#8217;t be any kind of force. (See Kevin A. Thompson&#8217;s excellent post, <a href="https://www.kevinathompson.com/what-a-drunk-girl-deserves/" target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">What a Drunk Girl Deserves</a>.)</p>
<p>Finally, I really wish some people would understanding the impact of this kind of pushback when we start talking about rape. I agree with you that &#8220;Forcible rape should be vigorously investigated and prosecuted!&#8221; and yes, we need to ensure fair treatment of all involved. But when the bulk of what someone says comes across as &#8220;But was she drunk?&#8221; it has a chilling effect on women reporting rape that cannot be easily and perfectly proved. And I think we as a society want better. (You can see this discussion in the comments here.)</p>
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		By: Charlie O.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2022 13:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The idea that one in four female college students are sexually assaulted, and one in five are raped is very, very suspect. And here is the reason: Would responsible parents send their daughters to such places? I highly doubt it! Forcible rape should be vigorously investigated and prosecuted! However, when two college students go to bed drunk, if there is no forensic evidence of violence, then how is culpability to be determined. His guilt is no more to be assumed than her consent is to be denied. Drunk people are not known for their good judgment. Also, presumed innocence cannot be denied the male. Colleges have paid hefty judgments in civil suits on several occasions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea that one in four female college students are sexually assaulted, and one in five are raped is very, very suspect. And here is the reason: Would responsible parents send their daughters to such places? I highly doubt it! Forcible rape should be vigorously investigated and prosecuted! However, when two college students go to bed drunk, if there is no forensic evidence of violence, then how is culpability to be determined. His guilt is no more to be assumed than her consent is to be denied. Drunk people are not known for their good judgment. Also, presumed innocence cannot be denied the male. Colleges have paid hefty judgments in civil suits on several occasions.</p>
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		By: J		</title>
		<link>https://hotholyhumorous.com/2021/08/09/do-we-live-in-a-rape-culture/#comment-101709</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2021 14:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2021/08/09/do-we-live-in-a-rape-culture/#comment-101699&quot;&gt;Anon&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t usually approve comments that link to other sites, but I&#039;m so in favor of dealing with the rape kit backlog, I agree! It&#039;s astounding that we haven&#039;t yet solved this issue, and heartbreaking for those hurt by it. Thanks for speaking up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2021/08/09/do-we-live-in-a-rape-culture/#comment-101699">Anon</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t usually approve comments that link to other sites, but I&#8217;m so in favor of dealing with the rape kit backlog, I agree! It&#8217;s astounding that we haven&#8217;t yet solved this issue, and heartbreaking for those hurt by it. Thanks for speaking up.</p>
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		By: Anon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2021 07:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A topic that is very important but rarely discussed is the backlog of processing of rape kits in our country... sometimes they sit on an evidence room shelf and aren&#039;t sent to a lab in a timely manner... sometimes they go to the lab but policy pr staffing issues don&#039;t make them a priority so they don&#039;t get processed... SANE training exists for nurses in the ER but the certification process is involved and not all medical systems are supportive of the time and money commitment it takes to have a SANE nurse available- this leaves victims in the ER vulnerable from the very beginning because their case may not be managed in the best way possible starting from the moment she seeks medical help... the shortage of SANE nurses is a problem. 

And poor policy, again, has led to big question marks about how many thousands of rape kits are unprocessed because policy does not require law enforcement or crime labs to routinely log or audit what is in storage... this varies from state to state... 

Anyone curious can visit endthebacklog.org and learn more, and see how their specific state&#039;s policy is working... if you&#039;re in a state with thousands of unprocessed rape kits and no plan or legislation seeking to correct the way these cases have been marginalized, there is a &quot;rape culture&quot; within your local justice system that quietly continues to inflict secondary trauma.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A topic that is very important but rarely discussed is the backlog of processing of rape kits in our country&#8230; sometimes they sit on an evidence room shelf and aren&#8217;t sent to a lab in a timely manner&#8230; sometimes they go to the lab but policy pr staffing issues don&#8217;t make them a priority so they don&#8217;t get processed&#8230; SANE training exists for nurses in the ER but the certification process is involved and not all medical systems are supportive of the time and money commitment it takes to have a SANE nurse available- this leaves victims in the ER vulnerable from the very beginning because their case may not be managed in the best way possible starting from the moment she seeks medical help&#8230; the shortage of SANE nurses is a problem. </p>
<p>And poor policy, again, has led to big question marks about how many thousands of rape kits are unprocessed because policy does not require law enforcement or crime labs to routinely log or audit what is in storage&#8230; this varies from state to state&#8230; </p>
<p>Anyone curious can visit endthebacklog.org and learn more, and see how their specific state&#8217;s policy is working&#8230; if you&#8217;re in a state with thousands of unprocessed rape kits and no plan or legislation seeking to correct the way these cases have been marginalized, there is a &#8220;rape culture&#8221; within your local justice system that quietly continues to inflict secondary trauma.</p>
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		By: Chris		</title>
		<link>https://hotholyhumorous.com/2021/08/09/do-we-live-in-a-rape-culture/#comment-100554</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2021 20:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2021/08/09/do-we-live-in-a-rape-culture/#comment-100524&quot;&gt;SLS&lt;/a&gt;.

You wrote your points very well. I am fortunate to have grown up before the easy access to porn. You are absolutely correct, porn completely distorts one&#039;s view of sexuality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2021/08/09/do-we-live-in-a-rape-culture/#comment-100524">SLS</a>.</p>
<p>You wrote your points very well. I am fortunate to have grown up before the easy access to porn. You are absolutely correct, porn completely distorts one&#8217;s view of sexuality.</p>
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		By: J		</title>
		<link>https://hotholyhumorous.com/2021/08/09/do-we-live-in-a-rape-culture/#comment-100546</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2021 14:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2021/08/09/do-we-live-in-a-rape-culture/#comment-100524&quot;&gt;SLS&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s a great point. Certain phrases themselves seem to trigger reactions whether or not the person using them agrees with the most extreme version of that. (Oh, and whataboutism—that&#039;s a whole other thing I get frustrated with. But I digress!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2021/08/09/do-we-live-in-a-rape-culture/#comment-100524">SLS</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a great point. Certain phrases themselves seem to trigger reactions whether or not the person using them agrees with the most extreme version of that. (Oh, and whataboutism—that&#8217;s a whole other thing I get frustrated with. But I digress!)</p>
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		By: SLS		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2021 02:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This was a very well thought out article. The fact that so many women are victims of sexual assault is appalling.  All allegations of assault should be seriously and thoroughly investigated. 

Your point about the influence of porn is spot on.  Porn teaches that sex is about power and domination, which dehumanizes the other person. 

You asked above, &quot;Where I’m really having a problem here is that I bring up the issue of sexual assault, and now there are pages worth of “but what about the false claims?!” in my comments section.&quot;

I think this is because everything in our culture these days has become polarized and politicized. Many people have a knee-jerk reaction to certain phrases because the phrase has become associated with the extremes of &quot;x side&quot;. 

So when someone hears the phrase &quot;rape culture&quot; they  often assume that the author is advocating for &quot;no due process&quot; regardless of whether that was the author&#039;s intent.

Similarly someone who hears the phrase &quot;religious freedom&quot; may assume the author is advocating for hatred and discrimination against LGBTQ people when that isn&#039;t the author&#039;s intent at all.

In other words it is easy for people to assume that an author is advocating an extreme viewpoint and they respond accordingly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a very well thought out article. The fact that so many women are victims of sexual assault is appalling.  All allegations of assault should be seriously and thoroughly investigated. </p>
<p>Your point about the influence of porn is spot on.  Porn teaches that sex is about power and domination, which dehumanizes the other person. </p>
<p>You asked above, &#8220;Where I’m really having a problem here is that I bring up the issue of sexual assault, and now there are pages worth of “but what about the false claims?!” in my comments section.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think this is because everything in our culture these days has become polarized and politicized. Many people have a knee-jerk reaction to certain phrases because the phrase has become associated with the extremes of &#8220;x side&#8221;. </p>
<p>So when someone hears the phrase &#8220;rape culture&#8221; they  often assume that the author is advocating for &#8220;no due process&#8221; regardless of whether that was the author&#8217;s intent.</p>
<p>Similarly someone who hears the phrase &#8220;religious freedom&#8221; may assume the author is advocating for hatred and discrimination against LGBTQ people when that isn&#8217;t the author&#8217;s intent at all.</p>
<p>In other words it is easy for people to assume that an author is advocating an extreme viewpoint and they respond accordingly.</p>
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		By: J		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2021 15:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2021/08/09/do-we-live-in-a-rape-culture/#comment-100497&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree, and I don&#039;t see how anything I said suggests we should &quot;automatically validate the accusation.&quot; We should, however, validate the person by taking their claims seriously and investigating. Yes, there are some instances when lives have been damaged by false accusations—and that should not happen!—but far more lives have been damaged by true accusations not taken seriously enough. That&#039;s what I&#039;m saying.

And by the way, I&#039;m sad and angry that your wife went through that. I&#039;m glad she has you to love her well instead.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2021/08/09/do-we-live-in-a-rape-culture/#comment-100497">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>I agree, and I don&#8217;t see how anything I said suggests we should &#8220;automatically validate the accusation.&#8221; We should, however, validate the person by taking their claims seriously and investigating. Yes, there are some instances when lives have been damaged by false accusations—and that should not happen!—but far more lives have been damaged by true accusations not taken seriously enough. That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m saying.</p>
<p>And by the way, I&#8217;m sad and angry that your wife went through that. I&#8217;m glad she has you to love her well instead.</p>
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		By: What Esther&#039;s Story Teaches Us About Sexual Consent &#124; Hot, Holy &#38; Humorous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2021 15:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] react to that query—with all the preconceived notions you may or may not have about that term—go read the post. But as I explained there, that topic didn&#8217;t come out of current events as much as from my [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] react to that query—with all the preconceived notions you may or may not have about that term—go read the post. But as I explained there, that topic didn&#8217;t come out of current events as much as from my [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2021 14:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2021/08/09/do-we-live-in-a-rape-culture/#comment-100471&quot;&gt;J&lt;/a&gt;.

J, I understand where you are coming from and absolutely want to see those who commit such horrific actions jailed (actually worse, as I mentioned already that my wife is a survivor and it is incredibly damaging). False accusations do incredible harm to true victims of this crime. However, while we can support those who make accusations in terms of getting counseling and not accusing them of lying, we also cannot automatically validate the accusation. It is not an easy balance, but I believe it is important to try to have this balance. I personally would have liked to see my wife&#039;s perpetrator go to jail for a long time. I not only believed her, but I am convinced that it was real. It still angers me that he never had any consequences, and this if over 30 years later. However, there still needs to be an investigation and evidence before we accept a verdict of guilty. I hope this makes sense, as I really want women to come forward. Every woman is so valuable to our God and none should have their claim of abuse simply dismissed.  I will, however, admit that I don&#039;t have a good answer or solution.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2021/08/09/do-we-live-in-a-rape-culture/#comment-100471">J</a>.</p>
<p>J, I understand where you are coming from and absolutely want to see those who commit such horrific actions jailed (actually worse, as I mentioned already that my wife is a survivor and it is incredibly damaging). False accusations do incredible harm to true victims of this crime. However, while we can support those who make accusations in terms of getting counseling and not accusing them of lying, we also cannot automatically validate the accusation. It is not an easy balance, but I believe it is important to try to have this balance. I personally would have liked to see my wife&#8217;s perpetrator go to jail for a long time. I not only believed her, but I am convinced that it was real. It still angers me that he never had any consequences, and this if over 30 years later. However, there still needs to be an investigation and evidence before we accept a verdict of guilty. I hope this makes sense, as I really want women to come forward. Every woman is so valuable to our God and none should have their claim of abuse simply dismissed.  I will, however, admit that I don&#8217;t have a good answer or solution.</p>
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