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	Comments on: &#8220;But What About&#8230;?&#8221;: Challenges to the Church&#8217;s Ban on Premarital Sex	</title>
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		By: J		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2023 17:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2022/04/12/challenges-to-church-ban-on-premarital-sex/#comment-106896&quot;&gt;Steve Hinton&lt;/a&gt;.

Yep, God&#039;s calling to love is not about getting &quot;the feels.&quot; I&#039;m certainly not opposed to the feels—we can do a lot in marriage to stir up such emotions—but it&#039;s not our core focus. In fact, I&#039;m always struck by the command to husbands to be like Christ who &quot;gave himself up for her ... to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.&quot; What a challenge! But in this area, wouldn&#039;t keeping one&#039;s wife without stain, wrinkle, or blemish include prioritizing her sexual integrity before marriage well over one&#039;s (understandable) fleshly desires? 

Again, it&#039;s a big challenge, and God forgives and redeems those who fall short and turn to Him, but the principle there shows the kind of &lt;em&gt;agape&lt;/em&gt; love God desires us to have for one another.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2022/04/12/challenges-to-church-ban-on-premarital-sex/#comment-106896">Steve Hinton</a>.</p>
<p>Yep, God&#8217;s calling to love is not about getting &#8220;the feels.&#8221; I&#8217;m certainly not opposed to the feels—we can do a lot in marriage to stir up such emotions—but it&#8217;s not our core focus. In fact, I&#8217;m always struck by the command to husbands to be like Christ who &#8220;gave himself up for her &#8230; to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.&#8221; What a challenge! But in this area, wouldn&#8217;t keeping one&#8217;s wife without stain, wrinkle, or blemish include prioritizing her sexual integrity before marriage well over one&#8217;s (understandable) fleshly desires? </p>
<p>Again, it&#8217;s a big challenge, and God forgives and redeems those who fall short and turn to Him, but the principle there shows the kind of <em>agape</em> love God desires us to have for one another.</p>
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		By: Steve Hinton		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2023 15:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[J, you’ve done a fantastic job taking on this issue, and thus I don’t have much to add.  You were spot on with the statement, “even if they did, this passage is descriptive, not prescriptive,” which is applicable to other texts. I have also heard of people using Boaz and Ruth to argue for freedom of pre-marital sex, but the whole line of reasoning is – well, unreasonable.

Your “bottom line” point about where we stand on the authority of the Bible is central.  Yes, there are some less-than-graceful Bible thumpers out there. But on the other hand, when you choose to explain away scripture, anything does and will go. 

I would also include that part of our modern problem is too much reliance upon “Falling” in love as a basis of marriage.  If this is so, it stands to dissolve a marriage simply when they “Fall out” of love.  Thus, Biblical love must be included in this discussion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J, you’ve done a fantastic job taking on this issue, and thus I don’t have much to add.  You were spot on with the statement, “even if they did, this passage is descriptive, not prescriptive,” which is applicable to other texts. I have also heard of people using Boaz and Ruth to argue for freedom of pre-marital sex, but the whole line of reasoning is – well, unreasonable.</p>
<p>Your “bottom line” point about where we stand on the authority of the Bible is central.  Yes, there are some less-than-graceful Bible thumpers out there. But on the other hand, when you choose to explain away scripture, anything does and will go. </p>
<p>I would also include that part of our modern problem is too much reliance upon “Falling” in love as a basis of marriage.  If this is so, it stands to dissolve a marriage simply when they “Fall out” of love.  Thus, Biblical love must be included in this discussion.</p>
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		By: Michele Sperber		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michele Sperber]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2022 13:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2022/04/12/challenges-to-church-ban-on-premarital-sex/#comment-104779&quot;&gt;J&lt;/a&gt;.

Your wisdom and thoughtfulness in this response and in so many others is admirable. I praise God for what He has given to you…. and that He has made you into a person of integrity that searches His Word deeply, chewing and meditating on it in order to supply living words to the body of Christ. God bless you for your faithfulness. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2022/04/12/challenges-to-church-ban-on-premarital-sex/#comment-104779">J</a>.</p>
<p>Your wisdom and thoughtfulness in this response and in so many others is admirable. I praise God for what He has given to you…. and that He has made you into a person of integrity that searches His Word deeply, chewing and meditating on it in order to supply living words to the body of Christ. God bless you for your faithfulness. </p>
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		By: Chris		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2022 02:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2022/04/12/challenges-to-church-ban-on-premarital-sex/#comment-104773&quot;&gt;Raphael&lt;/a&gt;.

Not necessarily a feast, but that is our own fault, not God&#039;s. You see, we live in an imperfect world, where sin impacts God&#039;s perfect plan. That doesn&#039;t make the plan wrong, it simply makes us (and by that I mean me) imperfect. It means my wife and I did not fall right into His plan but tried to do things our own way. We looked for our own needs instead of each other&#039;s needs. We allowed our sinful past to impact the feast that God desires for us. It is a daily battle, submitting ourselves under the authority of God. But on those days we get it right, and yes there are days I fail miserably and have to rely on God&#039;s grace, but on the days we get it right, it is an amazing feast.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2022/04/12/challenges-to-church-ban-on-premarital-sex/#comment-104773">Raphael</a>.</p>
<p>Not necessarily a feast, but that is our own fault, not God&#8217;s. You see, we live in an imperfect world, where sin impacts God&#8217;s perfect plan. That doesn&#8217;t make the plan wrong, it simply makes us (and by that I mean me) imperfect. It means my wife and I did not fall right into His plan but tried to do things our own way. We looked for our own needs instead of each other&#8217;s needs. We allowed our sinful past to impact the feast that God desires for us. It is a daily battle, submitting ourselves under the authority of God. But on those days we get it right, and yes there are days I fail miserably and have to rely on God&#8217;s grace, but on the days we get it right, it is an amazing feast.</p>
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		By: J		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2022 16:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2022/04/12/challenges-to-church-ban-on-premarital-sex/#comment-104773&quot;&gt;Raphael&lt;/a&gt;.

I suspect your view represents a lot of people out there, Raphael. I do think there are some assumptions here that I&#039;d like to address.

1. Yes, it is &quot;the standard church message,&quot; born of centuries-long study of Scripture and God&#039;s design. Not to say that the church gets everything right, but the core features are consistent across time, including a belief that sexual integrity matters. Not because God is a restrictive tyrant, but because He understands the power of this intimate act and wants it to bless His children.

2. As to &quot;If you aren&#039;t married you can go kick rocks,&quot; I believe there&#039;s a lot more compassion out there for people who are not married but want to find love and be sexually intimate. There&#039;s also a lot of compassion for those who have been sexually active outside marriage, while also wanting those people to enter a better way. I don&#039;t know anyone in the field I&#039;m in who has the cavalier attitude you describe. But what we won&#039;t do is confuse compassion with license.

3. I&#039;m sure you are tired. This road can be wearisome. I don&#039;t deny that it&#039;s a tough calling. But as Galatians 6:9 says, &quot;Let us not get tired of doing good, for we will reap at the proper time if we don’t give up.&quot; &lt;em&gt;Yeah, yeah&lt;/em&gt;, I can hear someone saying, &lt;em&gt;but when is my &quot;proper time?&quot;&lt;/em&gt; I don&#039;t know, and it&#039;s frustrating not to know. Yet this is also where faith enters: &quot;Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see&quot; (Hebrew 11:1). Believing God will make good on His promises requires that kind of confidence, even when one doesn&#039;t understand where, when, or how.

4. You call this approach &quot;bizarre.&quot; Yep, it is bizarre by many people&#039;s standards. Frankly, the whole of Christianity is somewhat bizarre. But 1 Corinthians 2:12-14 says:



&lt;blockquote&gt;What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Now that passage is specifically about the crucifixion, but it might well pertain to a lot of other concepts within Christianity, including the call to keep sex within the bonds of marriage.

5. It&#039;s a mischaracterization to say that sex in marriage is a feast. Yes, it would be lovely if it was feast-time all the time in marriage, but most couples know that&#039;s not at all how it goes. Sex can be challenging to get right, even in marriage, and struggles are common. Thus, my ministry! You could still say that a morsel is better than nothing, and I would mostly agree. But to describe the comparison as feast or famine just isn&#039;t quite accurate.

Once again, blessings to you! I am prayerful that those who long for relationship and physical intimacy can and will find it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2022/04/12/challenges-to-church-ban-on-premarital-sex/#comment-104773">Raphael</a>.</p>
<p>I suspect your view represents a lot of people out there, Raphael. I do think there are some assumptions here that I&#8217;d like to address.</p>
<p>1. Yes, it is &#8220;the standard church message,&#8221; born of centuries-long study of Scripture and God&#8217;s design. Not to say that the church gets everything right, but the core features are consistent across time, including a belief that sexual integrity matters. Not because God is a restrictive tyrant, but because He understands the power of this intimate act and wants it to bless His children.</p>
<p>2. As to &#8220;If you aren&#8217;t married you can go kick rocks,&#8221; I believe there&#8217;s a lot more compassion out there for people who are not married but want to find love and be sexually intimate. There&#8217;s also a lot of compassion for those who have been sexually active outside marriage, while also wanting those people to enter a better way. I don&#8217;t know anyone in the field I&#8217;m in who has the cavalier attitude you describe. But what we won&#8217;t do is confuse compassion with license.</p>
<p>3. I&#8217;m sure you are tired. This road can be wearisome. I don&#8217;t deny that it&#8217;s a tough calling. But as Galatians 6:9 says, &#8220;Let us not get tired of doing good, for we will reap at the proper time if we don’t give up.&#8221; <em>Yeah, yeah</em>, I can hear someone saying, <em>but when is my &#8220;proper time?&#8221;</em> I don&#8217;t know, and it&#8217;s frustrating not to know. Yet this is also where faith enters: &#8220;Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see&#8221; (Hebrew 11:1). Believing God will make good on His promises requires that kind of confidence, even when one doesn&#8217;t understand where, when, or how.</p>
<p>4. You call this approach &#8220;bizarre.&#8221; Yep, it is bizarre by many people&#8217;s standards. Frankly, the whole of Christianity is somewhat bizarre. But 1 Corinthians 2:12-14 says:</p>
<blockquote><p>What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now that passage is specifically about the crucifixion, but it might well pertain to a lot of other concepts within Christianity, including the call to keep sex within the bonds of marriage.</p>
<p>5. It&#8217;s a mischaracterization to say that sex in marriage is a feast. Yes, it would be lovely if it was feast-time all the time in marriage, but most couples know that&#8217;s not at all how it goes. Sex can be challenging to get right, even in marriage, and struggles are common. Thus, my ministry! You could still say that a morsel is better than nothing, and I would mostly agree. But to describe the comparison as feast or famine just isn&#8217;t quite accurate.</p>
<p>Once again, blessings to you! I am prayerful that those who long for relationship and physical intimacy can and will find it.</p>
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		By: Raphael		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2022 18:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The great thing is though, that once we marry, God tells us to fully enjoy the sexual freedom with have with our spouse&quot;.

 The standard church message. Sex is great and beautiful and should be engaged in regularly ... But only if you&#039;re married.
If you aren&#039;t married you can go kick rocks.

I&#039;m really tired of that message and this bizarre feast or famine approach to sexuality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The great thing is though, that once we marry, God tells us to fully enjoy the sexual freedom with have with our spouse&#8221;.</p>
<p> The standard church message. Sex is great and beautiful and should be engaged in regularly &#8230; But only if you&#8217;re married.<br />
If you aren&#8217;t married you can go kick rocks.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really tired of that message and this bizarre feast or famine approach to sexuality.</p>
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		By: Chris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2022 19:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[An excellent write up. I believe scripture is, in its original form, without error and can be fully trusted. Yes, we can have some varying opinions, but scripture is rather clear that we are to wait until marriage. It doesn&#039;t matter if I agree or not because God doesn&#039;t ask my opinion but tells me what is best for my life. I have to change my opinions to align with God&#039;s word, not the other way around. The great thing is though, that once we marry, God tells us to fully enjoy the sexual freedom with have with our spouse. He gave us sexual intimacy as a precious gift to strengthen marriage. Your write up honors God by holding on to the great value He has placed on sex.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent write up. I believe scripture is, in its original form, without error and can be fully trusted. Yes, we can have some varying opinions, but scripture is rather clear that we are to wait until marriage. It doesn&#8217;t matter if I agree or not because God doesn&#8217;t ask my opinion but tells me what is best for my life. I have to change my opinions to align with God&#8217;s word, not the other way around. The great thing is though, that once we marry, God tells us to fully enjoy the sexual freedom with have with our spouse. He gave us sexual intimacy as a precious gift to strengthen marriage. Your write up honors God by holding on to the great value He has placed on sex.</p>
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		By: Bruce		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2022 13:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2022/04/12/challenges-to-church-ban-on-premarital-sex/#comment-104703&quot;&gt;Raphael&lt;/a&gt;.

You clearly don&#039;t understand that entire passage.  Jacob didn&#039;t have God&#039;s blessing to marry just anyone.  He was in a foreign land and Laben&#039;s daughters were potentially his only choices.  
In my opinion, J is right on with this post.  Although, most people agree that he did not wait 14 years to have Rachel.  After receiving Leah, he was also given Rachel and then worked 7 more years for Laben, while having both wives.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2022/04/12/challenges-to-church-ban-on-premarital-sex/#comment-104703">Raphael</a>.</p>
<p>You clearly don&#8217;t understand that entire passage.  Jacob didn&#8217;t have God&#8217;s blessing to marry just anyone.  He was in a foreign land and Laben&#8217;s daughters were potentially his only choices.<br />
In my opinion, J is right on with this post.  Although, most people agree that he did not wait 14 years to have Rachel.  After receiving Leah, he was also given Rachel and then worked 7 more years for Laben, while having both wives.</p>
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		By: J		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2022 19:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2022/04/12/challenges-to-church-ban-on-premarital-sex/#comment-104735&quot;&gt;Eric&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree that marrying younger could be a good idea. Yet, I think a lot would have to change for this to be a viable option in our culture. I will say that results would have been disastrous had I married anyone I was dating in my teens! Not that there weren&#039;t some good guys among them, but we were nowhere near ready and I had quite a bit of baggage. Anyway, I think we could at least encourage people not to do everything else first—school, career, travel, etc.—before considering marriage. I don&#039;t particularly want 15-year-olds marrying, but waiting until one&#039;s 30s (becoming more common) may not be the best idea.

So what&#039;s the ideal age? I think that varies from person to person, but with greater family and church support, we could help individuals mature faster, prioritize marriage, and stand steady once they say their I Dos.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2022/04/12/challenges-to-church-ban-on-premarital-sex/#comment-104735">Eric</a>.</p>
<p>I agree that marrying younger could be a good idea. Yet, I think a lot would have to change for this to be a viable option in our culture. I will say that results would have been disastrous had I married anyone I was dating in my teens! Not that there weren&#8217;t some good guys among them, but we were nowhere near ready and I had quite a bit of baggage. Anyway, I think we could at least encourage people not to do everything else first—school, career, travel, etc.—before considering marriage. I don&#8217;t particularly want 15-year-olds marrying, but waiting until one&#8217;s 30s (becoming more common) may not be the best idea.</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s the ideal age? I think that varies from person to person, but with greater family and church support, we could help individuals mature faster, prioritize marriage, and stand steady once they say their I Dos.</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2022 19:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[J, you&#039;ve mentioned that teens have powerful sexual urges, but that it&#039;s not possible to express those urges morally, since state laws and the need to set up a household make it impossible for most to marry. I was a public school teacher in Indiana in 1971, and a 9th grade girl of 15 in one of my classes was big  PG by Christmas break. She didn&#039;t return after Christmas, and another girl told me that her wealthy parents had gone to a judge, a family friend, and he&#039;d married the girl to her boyfriend. I&#039;ve often wondered what happened to that couple.
That said, most states now require a youth to be 16 to marry with parents&#039; permission; 18 to marry without. My mother was 19, as was my paternal grandmother (1938 &#038; 1891). Both married farmers. My wife&#039;s paternal grandmother was only 14 in 1898 when she married a man of 21. They were together until he died in 1938 (she lived until 1963, only weeks after I married her granddaughter). We&#039;ve been together for more than 58 years! I do realize that yesterday&#039;s agrarian society made early marriage much easier. But it seems to me that many parents could help their teens marry early and enjoy sex, if the parents themselves were willing to let go of a little cash and help a young family out. Maybe a rent-free apartment in the family home. A good used car. Pay their health insurance. Right now there are plenty of jobs out there, and most anyone who&#039;s finished high school (and many who haven&#039;t) can work full time for $22/hr. here in the upper Midwest. 
I&#039;ve heard it said many times that early sex cuts a  kid out of teen life and high-school, etc. Does this really create such a hardship? Why do kids have to sin, then bear the shame, when they could marry and sleep together? A final thought: a couple I knew well, both now with Jesus, married when she was 16 and he was 17. Both dropped out of school, and he found steady work as a store clerk. He later got his GED and took a couple of years of college, got a good job. They reared a large family and enjoyed a middle-class lifestyle for most of  their 60+ years together, which included church every Sunday and family vacations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J, you&#8217;ve mentioned that teens have powerful sexual urges, but that it&#8217;s not possible to express those urges morally, since state laws and the need to set up a household make it impossible for most to marry. I was a public school teacher in Indiana in 1971, and a 9th grade girl of 15 in one of my classes was big  PG by Christmas break. She didn&#8217;t return after Christmas, and another girl told me that her wealthy parents had gone to a judge, a family friend, and he&#8217;d married the girl to her boyfriend. I&#8217;ve often wondered what happened to that couple.<br />
That said, most states now require a youth to be 16 to marry with parents&#8217; permission; 18 to marry without. My mother was 19, as was my paternal grandmother (1938 &amp; 1891). Both married farmers. My wife&#8217;s paternal grandmother was only 14 in 1898 when she married a man of 21. They were together until he died in 1938 (she lived until 1963, only weeks after I married her granddaughter). We&#8217;ve been together for more than 58 years! I do realize that yesterday&#8217;s agrarian society made early marriage much easier. But it seems to me that many parents could help their teens marry early and enjoy sex, if the parents themselves were willing to let go of a little cash and help a young family out. Maybe a rent-free apartment in the family home. A good used car. Pay their health insurance. Right now there are plenty of jobs out there, and most anyone who&#8217;s finished high school (and many who haven&#8217;t) can work full time for $22/hr. here in the upper Midwest.<br />
I&#8217;ve heard it said many times that early sex cuts a  kid out of teen life and high-school, etc. Does this really create such a hardship? Why do kids have to sin, then bear the shame, when they could marry and sleep together? A final thought: a couple I knew well, both now with Jesus, married when she was 16 and he was 17. Both dropped out of school, and he found steady work as a store clerk. He later got his GED and took a couple of years of college, got a good job. They reared a large family and enjoyed a middle-class lifestyle for most of  their 60+ years together, which included church every Sunday and family vacations.</p>
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