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		By: J		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2025 22:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2025/10/09/no-more-bartering/#comment-112802&quot;&gt;Chris B&lt;/a&gt;.

What a convenient explanation: It&#039;s the fault of women. Oh, and denying the research, the hundreds of stories I&#039;ve heard through the years, and the experience of many marriage and sex therapists I know (who say, yes, there is a substantial percentage of higher desire wives) doesn&#039;t change reality. Clearly, the scenario you&#039;ve dealt with—and perhaps heard about from others—involves a willing husband and a reluctant wife. But if your response to that is to frame the problem as us vs them or him vs her, then I don&#039;t know how you make progress from here. A wife will likely pick up on that resentment and become even less willing to work on the sexual piece of a marriage.

I&#039;m not giving a refusing wife a get-out-free card here. For instance, you can what I&#039;ve said on that subject &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2016/07/18/is-refusing-sex-in-marriage-a-sin/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;ugc&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2020/08/26/are-you-owed-sex-in-marriage/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;ugc&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2013/12/05/two-words-a-higher-desire-spouse-needs-you-to-hear/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;ugc&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. But what a resistant spouse needs is not pressure or condemnation but invitation and compassion. Why? Because that&#039;s what both of you need. It&#039;s what &lt;em&gt;agape&lt;/em&gt; love looks like.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2025/10/09/no-more-bartering/#comment-112802">Chris B</a>.</p>
<p>What a convenient explanation: It&#8217;s the fault of women. Oh, and denying the research, the hundreds of stories I&#8217;ve heard through the years, and the experience of many marriage and sex therapists I know (who say, yes, there is a substantial percentage of higher desire wives) doesn&#8217;t change reality. Clearly, the scenario you&#8217;ve dealt with—and perhaps heard about from others—involves a willing husband and a reluctant wife. But if your response to that is to frame the problem as us vs them or him vs her, then I don&#8217;t know how you make progress from here. A wife will likely pick up on that resentment and become even less willing to work on the sexual piece of a marriage.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not giving a refusing wife a get-out-free card here. For instance, you can what I&#8217;ve said on that subject <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2016/07/18/is-refusing-sex-in-marriage-a-sin/" target="_blank" rel="ugc">here</a>, <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2020/08/26/are-you-owed-sex-in-marriage/" target="_blank" rel="ugc">here</a>, and <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2013/12/05/two-words-a-higher-desire-spouse-needs-you-to-hear/" target="_blank" rel="ugc">here</a>. But what a resistant spouse needs is not pressure or condemnation but invitation and compassion. Why? Because that&#8217;s what both of you need. It&#8217;s what <em>agape</em> love looks like.</p>
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		By: J		</title>
		<link>https://hotholyhumorous.com/2025/10/09/no-more-bartering/#comment-112803</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2025 21:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2025/10/09/no-more-bartering/#comment-112799&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;.

While I appreciate your willingness and commitment to clean, it is neither choreplay nor emotional connecting for you to kiss and touch your wife when she&#039;s trying to get a task done. If you want to actually partner with her, pick up a towel and dry or help her load the dishwasher. Again, trade chores, not chore for sexual contact (including, in this case, you getting to touch her body when she isn&#039;t ready for it).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2025/10/09/no-more-bartering/#comment-112799">Mark</a>.</p>
<p>While I appreciate your willingness and commitment to clean, it is neither choreplay nor emotional connecting for you to kiss and touch your wife when she&#8217;s trying to get a task done. If you want to actually partner with her, pick up a towel and dry or help her load the dishwasher. Again, trade chores, not chore for sexual contact (including, in this case, you getting to touch her body when she isn&#8217;t ready for it).</p>
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		By: Chris B		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2025 21:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Of course your article is right in theory that sex should never be a bargaining chip. But the reality is that it most certainly is in most marriages. Most husbands have heard at least 20 different tasks from their wives that increase the reward of sex. Most husbands have never heard one reason from their wife why they should be having sex, only what they could do to increase the odds. The high drive spouse is almost certainly the husband. I know research shows that its 60/40 split blahblahblah. Research works on honor system. If you polled husbands about housework most would say they did 40-60%. We know that is BS. Same with high drive spouse stats. If you have two spouses that Love each other, then why don&#039;t they figure the sex stuff out on their own? I can tell you why.....one half of the marriage does not care enough about the other to work together and make it happen. Same goes for poor husbands. If they care enough then they will work to become a better husband. We live in a world where its always someone else fault.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course your article is right in theory that sex should never be a bargaining chip. But the reality is that it most certainly is in most marriages. Most husbands have heard at least 20 different tasks from their wives that increase the reward of sex. Most husbands have never heard one reason from their wife why they should be having sex, only what they could do to increase the odds. The high drive spouse is almost certainly the husband. I know research shows that its 60/40 split blahblahblah. Research works on honor system. If you polled husbands about housework most would say they did 40-60%. We know that is BS. Same with high drive spouse stats. If you have two spouses that Love each other, then why don&#8217;t they figure the sex stuff out on their own? I can tell you why&#8230;..one half of the marriage does not care enough about the other to work together and make it happen. Same goes for poor husbands. If they care enough then they will work to become a better husband. We live in a world where its always someone else fault.</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2025 00:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2025/10/09/no-more-bartering/#comment-112795&quot;&gt;J&lt;/a&gt;.

yep, but even standing behind the spouse kissing her neck or behind her shoulder area while she is doing the dishes, is a form of &quot;choreplay&quot; I explain that I&#039;m &quot;helping&quot; her. Except she seems to freeze up and rests the palm of her hands on the edge of the sink, then says &quot;this isn&#039;t helping.

I grew up the eldest of 5, with both parents working. I cleaned, dusted, vacuumed, ironed shirts, did the laundry and the dishes growing up. In fact I concentrated more on keeping a spotless clean house than I did doing my homework and I know my spouse appreciates that we mutually keep a clean house. Our friends and family  sometimes shake their heads as we even keep the bottom of waste basket in the kitchen clean.

It&#039;s just another form of emotional connection whenever we do something together, even doing the dishes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2025/10/09/no-more-bartering/#comment-112795">J</a>.</p>
<p>yep, but even standing behind the spouse kissing her neck or behind her shoulder area while she is doing the dishes, is a form of &#8220;choreplay&#8221; I explain that I&#8217;m &#8220;helping&#8221; her. Except she seems to freeze up and rests the palm of her hands on the edge of the sink, then says &#8220;this isn&#8217;t helping.</p>
<p>I grew up the eldest of 5, with both parents working. I cleaned, dusted, vacuumed, ironed shirts, did the laundry and the dishes growing up. In fact I concentrated more on keeping a spotless clean house than I did doing my homework and I know my spouse appreciates that we mutually keep a clean house. Our friends and family  sometimes shake their heads as we even keep the bottom of waste basket in the kitchen clean.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just another form of emotional connection whenever we do something together, even doing the dishes.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2025 17:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2025/10/09/no-more-bartering/#comment-112793&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

I think it&#039;s entirely accurate. But it&#039;s not because they&#039;re bartering housework and childcare for sex. It&#039;s that these wives feel the support of their husbands, they witness their guys accomplishing things, they see the tender relationships they have with their children, and they have more time and energy to devote to sexual thoughts and actions. Chris Taylor and I talked about this on an episode of Knowing Her Sexually: https://khsministry.com/2020/06/04/episode-6-does-choreplay-work/ (Patreon-protected on our site, but you might be able to find the episode elsewhere). Also see, &lt;a href=&quot;https://hotholyhumorous.com/2016/06/18/why-being-a-good-father-turns-your-wife-on/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;ugc&quot;&gt;Why Being a Good Father Turns Your Wife On&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2025/10/09/no-more-bartering/#comment-112793">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s entirely accurate. But it&#8217;s not because they&#8217;re bartering housework and childcare for sex. It&#8217;s that these wives feel the support of their husbands, they witness their guys accomplishing things, they see the tender relationships they have with their children, and they have more time and energy to devote to sexual thoughts and actions. Chris Taylor and I talked about this on an episode of Knowing Her Sexually: <a href="https://khsministry.com/2020/06/04/episode-6-does-choreplay-work/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://khsministry.com/2020/06/04/episode-6-does-choreplay-work/</a> (Patreon-protected on our site, but you might be able to find the episode elsewhere). Also see, <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2016/06/18/why-being-a-good-father-turns-your-wife-on/" target="_blank" rel="ugc">Why Being a Good Father Turns Your Wife On</a></p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2025 05:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I read this statement recently... after extensive research Gottman concluded that &quot;where men contribute to housework and childcare, their partners see them as sexy, and indeed they have more sex than couples in which the men are chore-free.&quot; I would like your thoughts about this research finding.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this statement recently&#8230; after extensive research Gottman concluded that &#8220;where men contribute to housework and childcare, their partners see them as sexy, and indeed they have more sex than couples in which the men are chore-free.&#8221; I would like your thoughts about this research finding.</p>
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