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		<title>From Myth to Truth: Lust &#038; Modesty</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Let's address myths perpetuated in the Church and beyond about lust and modesty and replace them with biblical truth.</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2021/12/13/from-myth-to-truth-lust-modesty/">From Myth to Truth: Lust &#038; Modesty</a> appeared first on <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com">Hot, Holy &amp; Humorous</a>.</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">One challenge to embracing sex as God designed it to be is erroneous messages we&#8217;ve absorbed. Some such messages are truly heinous and harmful, others are <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2014/03/17/not-quite-right-messages/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">not quite right</a>, and plenty fall somewhere in between. This post is the first of a series that will appear now and then over the next couple of months, with each post correcting the record on a specific topic in the realm of sex.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Today let&#8217;s address myths perpetuated in the Church and beyond about lust and modesty and replace them with biblical truth.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">What&#8217;s So Bad about Lust?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The word translated as <em>lust</em> in the Bible refers to intense longing, not sexual desire specifically. <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2012/03/15/lust-the-pigpen-or-the-feast/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The longing can be good or bad, depending on the motives and target of your longing</a>. For instance, it&#8217;s good to long for (&#8220;lust&#8221; after) your spouse, as long as it involves not merely physical desire but respect and intimacy. It&#8217;s bad to long for (&#8220;lust&#8221; after) the skimpily clad stranger walking down the street.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But let&#8217;s talk about the latter—when lust is misdirected and becomes sin. As Jesus said:</p>



<blockquote class="wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow"><p>But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.</p><cite>Matthew 5:28</cite></blockquote>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In an effort to avoid such <em>adultery of the heart</em>, people have suggested &#8220;bouncing your eyes,&#8221; avoiding the opposite sex, and/or insisting women dress more modestly. Let&#8217;s look at each of these.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Bouncing Your Eyes</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Bouncing Your Eyes&#8221; is the title of a chapter in the well-known book<em> Every Man&#8217;s Battle</em> by Stephen Arterburn and Fred Stoeker. It begins:</p>



<blockquote class="wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow"><p>To set up your first defense perimeter with your eyes, you want to employ the strategies of bouncing your eyes and starving your eyes as well as the tactic of taking up a &#8220;sword&#8221; and a &#8220;shield.&#8221;</p><p>Let&#8217;s first consider bouncing. You can win this battle by training your eyes to &#8220;bounce&#8221; away from sights of pretty women and sensual images. If you &#8220;bounce your eyes&#8221; for six weeks, you can win this war.</p><p>The problem is that your eyes have always bounced toward the sexual, and you’ve made no attempt to end this habit. To combat it, you need to build a reflex action by training your eyes to immediately bounce away from the sexual, like the jerk of your hand away from a hot stove.</p></blockquote>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Part of me understands the theory here. After all, the verses after Jesus&#8217;s warning about lust are:</p>



<blockquote class="wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow"><p>If your right eye causes you to stumble,&nbsp;gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.&nbsp;And if your right hand causes you to stumble,&nbsp;cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.</p><cite>Matthew 5:29-31</cite></blockquote>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Might <em>bouncing</em> be a less messy version of gouging out your eyes?</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But the problem with that theory is Jesus himself. He didn&#8217;t bounce His eyes from women, and He never told His disciples to do that. </p>


<hr /><p><em>From Myth to Truth: Lust &amp; Modesty: &quot;[Jesus] didn&#039;t bounce His eyes from women, and He never told His disciples to do that.&quot; @hotholyhumorous</em><br /><a href='https://x.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhotholyhumorous.com%2F2021%2F12%2F13%2Ffrom-myth-to-truth-lust-modesty%2F&#038;text=From%20Myth%20to%20Truth%3A%20Lust%20%26%20Modesty%3A%20%22%5BJesus%5D%20didn%27t%20bounce%20His%20eyes%20from%20women%2C%20and%20He%20never%20told%20His%20disciples%20to%20do%20that.%22%20%40hotholyhumorous&#038;related' target='_blank' rel="noopener noreferrer" >Share on X</a><br /><hr />


<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Then there&#8217;s Job statement: &#8220;I made a covenant with my eyes not to look lustfully at a young woman&#8221; (Job 31:1). He did not say he wouldn&#8217;t look at a young woman. He wouldn&#8217;t look <em>lustfully</em>.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In fact, the majority of biblical teaching is about training your eyes and mind to see beyond flesh and selfish desires. It&#8217;s about looking at someone through the ideas of a transformed believer, governed by the Holy Spirit. For example:</p>



<blockquote class="wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow"><p>Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires;&nbsp;but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace.</p><cite>Romans 8:5-6</cite></blockquote>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2017/12/11/on-pigs-good-men-and-the-difference/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">It&#8217;s not about bouncing your eyes</a>, but seeing the whole person.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Sure, some are at the level of addiction/compulsiveness and might need to adopt this approach for a time. (I haven&#8217;t read the book, but even that snippet from <em>Every Man&#8217;s Battle</em> suggested six weeks to get things under control. Did the authors intend men to bounce eyes for a lifetime? Surely not. Hopefully not. Anyway, that book is not the point.)</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Stop bouncing your eyes, gents, and follow Christ&#8217;s example. He engaged with women even of highly questionable sexual character and looked at them for the whole person they were.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Avoiding the Opposite Sex</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Setting boundaries is a good idea and might include:</p>



<ul class="wp-block-list"><li>not traveling alone with a member of the opposite sex</li><li>not meeting behind closed doors with a member of the opposite sex</li><li>talking positively in public about your spouse, so others are aware of your marital commitment</li><li>regularly wearing a wedding ring (or having one tattooed on) to convey your marital status</li><li>checking in with your spouse frequently through phone calls, texts, etc.</li></ul>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But boundaries shouldn&#8217;t mean isolation or exclusion. That is, some women have been denied opportunities in the workplace because they can&#8217;t get into the offices, boardrooms, country clubs, lunch meetings, etc. where deals and connections are. All because some guy(s) can&#8217;t look beyond her physical features to the work talents she possesses!</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Moreover, if we never interact with each other, we don&#8217;t learn how to be around people of the opposite sex without viewing them as &#8220;other&#8221; or forbidden or even dangerous.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Now, I&#8217;ve personally <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2011/01/04/the-rule/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">avoided the opposite sex in some circumstances</a>. But then, I had <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/personal-testimony/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">a bad premarital history</a>, have admitted that I&#8217;m not <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2014/03/03/are-we-naturally-monogamous/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">naturally monogamous</a> (I&#8217;m wholly dedicated to Spock, but monogamy wasn&#8217;t my initial tendency), and <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2012/08/23/7-steps-to-an-affair/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">witnessed friends descend into adultery</a> through a series of ill-advised choices. Yet, the more I&#8217;ve mulled it over, the more I believe the boundaries I&#8217;ve set are largely applicable no matter who I&#8217;m with.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">For instance, put a window in your office door and meet with whomever you need to. Take that work lunch, but remain in public. Talk positively about your spouse whenever you can. Wear the wedding ring. Check in with your spouse.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">If you cannot interact with a member of the opposite sex without a struggle, that&#8217;s not a red flag about them. It&#8217;s a red flag about you needing to figure out what&#8217;s up. Do you have baggage you need to work through? Should you see a counselor or join a support group? Have you matured sufficiently in your faith and honoring of others?</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Insisting Women Dress Modestly</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Could women insist that men dress modestly? Sure, but I&#8217;ve rarely heard that one. Instead, the vast majority of messaging on this topic could be summed up as:</p>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large"><a href="https://i0.wp.com/hotholyhumorous.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Cover-Up.jpg?ssl=1"><img data-recalc-dims="1" decoding="async" width="640" height="314" src="https://i0.wp.com/hotholyhumorous.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Cover-Up.jpg?resize=640%2C314&#038;ssl=1" alt="&quot;Ladies, cover up! You don't want to make a man sin, do you?&quot;" class="wp-image-39112" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/hotholyhumorous.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Cover-Up.jpg?w=640&amp;ssl=1 640w, https://i0.wp.com/hotholyhumorous.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Cover-Up.jpg?resize=300%2C147&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/hotholyhumorous.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Cover-Up.jpg?resize=600%2C294&amp;ssl=1 600w" sizes="(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></figure></div>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Here&#8217;s another area where I kind of get it. That is, I raised two sons, and it did not seem to their mom particularly helpful for them to see a lot of images of highly sexy women or actual girls with TMI about their bodies appearing through their dress, or lack thereof. It would be nice if young women would at least understand—fair or unfair—how the way they dress can impact how they are seen.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But for every woman dressed in a very provocative way, there have been a thousand messages to women <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2017/04/10/do-our-yoga-pants-make-men-sin/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">not dressed that provocatively being blamed for men ogling them</a>!</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Meanwhile, Scripture never blames the target of lust for the sin of lust. It&#8217;s the person lusting who holds the responsibility for his/her actions. Let&#8217;s revisit Jesus&#8217;s warning from Matthew 5:28:</p>



<blockquote class="wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow"><p><em>But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.</em></p></blockquote>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">That says nothing about how the woman is dressed. And Jesus encountered women likely dressed in ways that conveyed immodesty (see <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+7%3A36-50&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Luke 7:36-50</a>, <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+4%3A1-26&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">John 4:1-26</a>, and <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+8%3A2-11&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">John 8:2-11</a>), yet treated them with kindness and respect.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Moreover, let&#8217;s look at the one and only time &#8220;modest apparel&#8221; is mentioned in the Bible:</p>



<blockquote class="wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow"><p>I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes,&nbsp;but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God.</p><cite>1 Timothy 2:910</cite></blockquote>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Modesty here doesn&#8217;t refer to how much clothing one is wearing, but rather how elaborate the adornments are.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">And the word translated <em>modest</em> in that verse is the same Greek word translated as &#8220;respectable&#8221; in this verse:</p>



<blockquote class="wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow"><p>Now the overseer is to be above reproach,&nbsp;faithful to his wife,&nbsp;temperate,&nbsp;self-controlled, respectable, hospitable,&nbsp;able to teach,&nbsp;not given to drunkenness,&nbsp;not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome,&nbsp;not a lover of money.</p><cite>1 Timothy 3:2</cite></blockquote>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Do you think Paul was telling Timothy that overseers need to cover up? I don&#8217;t think so. Rather, modesty—the New Testament Greek word <em><a href="https://biblehub.com/greek/2887.htm#:~:text=Transliteration%3A%20kosmios%20Phonetic%20Spelling%3A%20%28kos%27-mee-os%29%20Definition%3A,orderly%20Usage%3A%20orderly%2C%20virtuous%2C%20decent%2C%20modest%2C%20well-ordered." target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">kosmios</a></em>—is about conducting yourself respectably. It means well-arranged, orderly, proper.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">You know what&#8217;s respectable behavior? Not lusting after women! Hey, in that second verse, the word &#8220;self-controlled&#8221; comes right before &#8220;respectable&#8221; (aka <em>modest</em>).</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When speaking to women, yes, I think it&#8217;s reasonable to say, &#8220;Let&#8217;s be respectable by dressing appropriately according to culture, context, and morality.&#8221; But no woman is responsible for a man sinning by lusting after her. That&#8217;s <em>his</em> immodesty, not hers.</p>


<hr /><p><em>From Myth to Truth: Lust &amp; Modesty: &quot;No woman is responsible for a man sinning by lusting after her. That&#039;s his immodesty, not hers.&quot; @hotholyhumorous</em><br /><a href='https://x.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhotholyhumorous.com%2F2021%2F12%2F13%2Ffrom-myth-to-truth-lust-modesty%2F&#038;text=From%20Myth%20to%20Truth%3A%20Lust%20%26%20Modesty%3A%20%22No%20woman%20is%20responsible%20for%20a%20man%20sinning%20by%20lusting%20after%20her.%20That%27s%20his%20immodesty%2C%20not%20hers.%22%20%40hotholyhumorous&#038;related' target='_blank' rel="noopener noreferrer" >Share on X</a><br /><hr />


<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Shifting the blame and responsibility to someone else is like becoming a glutton and blaming the cook.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Are Lust &amp; Immodesty Related?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Lust and immodesty are related in that each doesn&#8217;t show the reverence for God and respect for others we should have.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Honestly, a lot of arguments about lust and modesty would just disappear if we followed Christ&#8217;s example for how to treat one another and remembered that each of us is a unique individual made in the image of God. Let&#8217;s aim for that!</p>



<blockquote class="wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow"><p>Everyone should look out not only for his own interests, but also for the interests of others. Make your own attitude that of Christ Jesus&#8230;</p><cite>Philippians 2:4-5 (HCSB)</cite></blockquote>



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<p>The post <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2021/12/13/from-myth-to-truth-lust-modesty/">From Myth to Truth: Lust &#038; Modesty</a> appeared first on <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com">Hot, Holy &amp; Humorous</a>.</p>
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		<title>Where Purity Culture Got It Wrong, Let&#8217;s Get It Right</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Purity Culture got some things wrong. Let's correct the record with biblical truth about God's design for sex!</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2021/04/08/purity-culture-wrong-and-right/">Where Purity Culture Got It Wrong, Let&#8217;s Get It Right</a> appeared first on <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com">Hot, Holy &amp; Humorous</a>.</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2021/03/29/is-purity-culture-to-blame/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Last week, I asked if Purity Culture or simply bad messages about sexual purity have contributed</a> to struggles you&#8217;ve had in your marriage bed. Today, we&#8217;ll address some of the specific myths and come up with better, biblical truths.</p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">First, however, the recent Atlanta shooting brought the issue of purity culture out in the news, and I briefly discussed that fact in my prior post. However, a reader contacted me with more information about the gunman and his concern that I left a wrong impression. I appreciated his insight and inserted this note in that last post:</p>



<p class="has-background wp-block-paragraph" style="background-color:#f5e6db">Others have used this opportunity to discuss purity teaching in the church, but I don’t know the shooter’s motives or what he was taught. Please do not take anything in this post as knowledge of the shooter’s history or reasoning.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Moving on to the issue at hand!</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">What is purity culture?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Let&#8217;s quickly revisit that <a href="https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/faqs-know-purity-culture/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Purity Culture as a concept largely began with the True Love Waits curriculum</a> launched by Lifeway in 1993. <a href="https://www.lifeway.com/en/product-family/true-love-waits/history" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">That turned into a movement</a> with pledge cards, purity rings, conferences, books, and more—all emphasizing the importance of sexual abstinence before marriage.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Some of the messages were biblical, but too many were extrabiblical and/or dismissive of God&#8217;s love, grace, and forgiveness. Other forms of godly purity were not given sufficient coverage while this one aspect was elevated and at times treated as determinative of one&#8217;s standing in the kingdom.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yes, God is concerned about our sexuality, but as an outgrowth of our hearts and souls. </p>


<hr /><p><em>Yes, God is concerned about our sexuality, but as an outgrowth of our hearts and souls. #Christiansex #purityculture #marriage</em><br /><a href='https://x.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhotholyhumorous.com%2F2021%2F04%2F08%2Fpurity-culture-wrong-and-right%2F&#038;text=Yes%2C%20God%20is%20concerned%20about%20our%20sexuality%2C%20but%20as%20an%20outgrowth%20of%20our%20hearts%20and%20souls.%20%23Christiansex%20%23purityculture%20%23marriage&#038;related' target='_blank' rel="noopener noreferrer" >Share on X</a><br /><hr />


<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Let&#8217;s do some myth-busting.</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Again, I want to say that not all of the messages were bad. Some attacks on Purity Culture want to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_throw_the_baby_out_with_the_bathwater" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">throw out the baby with the bathwater</a>. But y&#8217;all are too smart for that. ~wink~</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">We can keep the good and filter out the bad and not-quite-right. Let&#8217;s take on a few prominent myths.</p>



<h4 class="wp-block-heading">Courtship, not dating.</h4>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The Bible does say, &#8220;Do not be yoked together with unbelievers&#8221; (2 Corinthians 6:14), and God repeatedly tells His people to choose a mate from among their own—not referring to race, ethnicity, or nationality, but to their faith. So yes, we shouldn&#8217;t choose a marriage partner who doesn&#8217;t share our devotion to Christ.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">(To those already in that situation, please understand there&#8217;s no condemnation for that! See <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+7%3A13-14&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">1 Corinthians 7:13-14</a>.)</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But is going out on a date being &#8220;yoked&#8221;? And is courtship—&#8221;<a href="https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/courtship" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">the time when people have a romantic relationship with the intention of getting married</a>&#8220;—<em>from the beginning</em> the best or only way?</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Actually, the Bible shows a number of ways people ended up with their mate. Some were <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2024&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">matched by their parents</a>, some <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+29%3A9-30&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">found and pursued their love interest</a>, some were <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Judges+1%3A12-13&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">rewarded a wife for heroic deeds</a> (<em>sigh</em>&#8230;it was the culture then), some <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ruth+3%3A7-13&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">fulfilled a family duty</a>, some <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Samuel+25%3A39-42&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">made a great first impression</a>, and so on. </p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Moreover, I know Christians who dated, Christians who courted, one couple who dated everyone else in their social circle before they finally courted, Christians who met in person, Christians who met online, and Christians who [fill in the blank] and ended up with solid, godly marriages.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Conclusions</strong></p>



<ul class="wp-block-list"><li>If possible, God wants us married to (&#8220;yoked&#8221; with) a fellow believer.</li><li>Being in a relationship that could lead to marriage with someone who isn&#8217;t a believer is unwise.</li><li>Though dating could lead to a relationship, a date isn&#8217;t the equivalent of a relationship.</li><li>God accepts a variety of paths from meet to marry—including courtship, but not only courtship.</li><li>God wants to bless your marriage however you got there.</li></ul>



<h4 class="wp-block-heading">Waiting ensures good sex in marriage.</h4>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yes, God&#8217;s initial and ideal design is a single sexual partner (one man, one woman), and physical intimacy after a God-blessed, witnessed commitment (husband and wife).</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Benefits of waiting include the <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2014/06/05/security-in-the-bedroom/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">security of that commitment underlying a very vulnerable experience</a>, the joy of discovering and exploring sexual pleasure and connection together, no pop-up-window comparisons in your mind to prior lovers or <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2014/11/13/does-your-spouse-think-about-previous-lovers/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">worry that you&#8217;re being compared</a>, a high unlikelihood of <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2013/10/14/is-an-std-affecting-your-marriage/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">sexually transmitted infections</a>, and the structure of a family for children if/when conception occurs.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Hey, I wish I&#8217;d waited. I wish my husband had been my only lover. I wish I hadn&#8217;t <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2014/01/27/entering-marriage-with-sexual-baggage/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">entered marriage with that particular baggage</a> or <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2011/12/08/a-letter-to-a-former-lover/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">added baggage for my previous lovers to take into their marriage</a>. But EVERYONE enters marriage with baggage, whether it&#8217;s inaccurate theology, past experiences, erroneous expectations, etc.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">And if you didn&#8217;t have any of those challenges, give it time. Somewhere in your marriage, something will crop up to challenge your sexual intimacy. </p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">We need to stop guaranteeing something God didn&#8217;t guarantee: an easy life. Sure, Christ promised His disciples such beautiful things as <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2010%3A9&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">salvation</a>, <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2014%3A27&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">peace</a>, <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2015%3A11&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">joy</a>, <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+21%3A15&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">wisdom</a>, <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2014%3A26&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">the Holy Spirit</a>, and <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%205%3A24&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">eternal life</a>. But He also said that <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+15%3A18-19&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">the world will hate His disciples</a>, <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2015%3A20&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">we will be persecuted</a>, and <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2016%3A24&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">we have to carry our cross</a>. </p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Conclusions</strong></p>



<ul class="wp-block-list"><li>God&#8217;s design is for sex to happen in the covenant relationship of marriage.</li><li>Waiting until marriage comes with certain benefits to oneself and for the marriage.</li><li>Both those who waited and those who didn&#8217;t will have problems to resolve.</li><li>I beg your pardon, God didn&#8217;t promise you a rose garden<a href="https://youtu.be/a7cqwqcolqk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">*</a> here on earth. We get glimpses of Eden, but not Eden itself, yet.</li><li>Good sexual intimacy is God&#8217;s desire for <em>every</em> married couple, whatever their background. (It&#8217;s worth the effort.)</li></ul>





<h4 class="wp-block-heading">Modest is hottest.</h4>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">That slogan was on t-shirts during the height of Purity Culture. You would have had to pay young adult me a <em>whole lot</em> of money to wear one. (I was a little busy back then pushing the boundaries of my Christian university&#8217;s overly strict dress code. ~grin~)</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But that isn&#8217;t just a slogan. Rather, there&#8217;s an entire subgenre of books and resources all about how a women should dress modestly so that men won&#8217;t be tempted to lust. Yes, sometimes it went the other way—with men encouraged to be modest—but not often. Rather, the primary modesty message fell on girls, while the don&#8217;t-lust message fell on boys.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">What&#8217;s true about this is that we should consider how our appearance does or does not reflect Christian values. For instance, the one passage where modest attire is addressed is this one:</p>



<blockquote class="wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow"><p>Likewise also&nbsp;that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire,&nbsp;but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works.</p><cite>1 Timothy 2:9-10</cite></blockquote>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But notice that&#8217;s not about how much skin is showing, but rather not displaying one&#8217;s wealth. Moreover, let&#8217;s discuss the Greek word translated as <em>modesty</em> here. It&#8217;s <em><a href="https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/greek/nas/aidos.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">aidos</a></em>, and it means &#8220;a sense of shame or honour, modesty, bashfulness, reverence, regard for others, respect.&#8221; It doesn&#8217;t mean &#8220;cover yourself up, girlfriend!&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Sure, you can make a case that honor, regard for others, and respect means dressing in a way that doesn&#8217;t tempt or distract, but really this is about dressing in a way that doesn&#8217;t offend or detract. In fact, I think this translation captures the meaning a bit better:</p>



<blockquote class="wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow"><p>And I want women to be modest in their appearance.&nbsp;They should wear decent and appropriate clothing and not draw attention to themselves by the way they fix their hair or by wearing gold or pearls or expensive clothes.&nbsp;For women who claim to be devoted to God should make themselves attractive by the good things they do.</p><cite>1 Timothy 2:9-10 (NLT)</cite></blockquote>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Now if you turn to the passages about lust, not one of them blames the target of lust. Not. One. (I searched.) Indeed, when Job makes his covenant, he holds himself responsible for his choice.</p>



<blockquote class="wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow"><p>I made a covenant with my eyes not to look lustfully at a young woman.</p><cite>Job 31:1</cite></blockquote>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In Proverbs, the father tells his son:</p>



<blockquote class="wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow"><p>Do not lust in your heart after her beauty or let her captivate you with her eyes.</p><cite>Proverbs 6:25</cite></blockquote>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">And Jesus warns:</p>



<blockquote class="wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow"><p>But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.</p><cite>Matthew 5:28</cite></blockquote>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">And while I&#8217;m at it, none of those passages tell you to &#8220;bounce your eyes.&#8221; I fully respect the intention here, but constantly avoiding women doesn&#8217;t deal with the underlying issue and conveys to women that they <em>are</em> the issue.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I honestly used to believe &#8220;bounce your eyes&#8221; was a good idea, but when I started to look at the Word of God for what it said, the closest you can come are the next two verses: &#8220;If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell&#8221; (Matthew 5:29-30).</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It would seem that looking away is better, or at least less painful, than gouging out your eye. But unless you&#8217;re at the level of addiction or compulsion—where avoidance is your only way of gaining control—then the approach should be not to look away but <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2017/12/11/on-pigs-good-men-and-the-difference/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">to look deeper</a>. That&#8217;s what Jesus did (see <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2017/12/11/on-pigs-good-men-and-the-difference/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">On “Pigs,” Good Men, and the Difference</a>).</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Christ encountered women likely dressed in ways conveyed immodesty (see <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+7%3A36-50&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Luke 7:36-50</a>, <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+4%3A1-26&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">John 4:1-26</a>, and <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+8%3A2-11&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">John 8:2-11</a>), yet treated them with kindness and respect.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Conclusions</strong></p>



<ul class="wp-block-list"><li>Modesty is about acting in ways that do not offend or detract from the good works we do as Christians.</li><li>Dressing appropriately—whatever that looks like in your culture—can be part of modesty, but a mature Christian chooses that out of reverence for Christ, not demands by others or the fear of being ogled.</li><li>(By the way, there are passages that make the case for not being naked or close to naked in public—both men and women—but the modesty verses aren&#8217;t it.)</li><li>Scripture never blames the target of lust for the sin of lust. It&#8217;s the person lusting who&#8217;s responsible.</li><li>Most people who struggle with lust don&#8217;t need to look away but to look deeper—that is, to see others as a whole person and a child of God rather than the culmination of attractive body parts.</li></ul>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">And a quick word about object lessons.</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Long before I had a sex blog, I worked in children&#8217;s ministry. I&#8217;ve done a lot of object lessons! Let me tell you, there&#8217;s nothing quite like explaining the resurrection of Christ with a matchstick that you blow out and then watch spark back to life. The kids literally <em>ooh</em>ed and <em>aah</em>ed.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">So I understand the power of a great object lesson. But I&#8217;m perplexed by some I&#8217;ve heard being used to explain the importance of sexual integrity to youth. For example:</p>



<ul class="wp-block-list"><li>Taking the petals off a flower one by one to show how each sexual experience removes something from you that can never be put back.</li><li>Sticking two pieces of duct tape together and claiming that&#8217;s how it is with your first sexual partner, no matter what—you cannot be pulled apart without ripping.</li><li>Asking people to take a bite of or spit on food and then offering it to a volunteer who refuses, to show that no one wants something or some<em>one</em> used by others.</li></ul>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Good heavens! First off, that&#8217;s all focused on our behavior more than the heart and faith from which actions flow. Second, every one of those situations is well within God&#8217;s power to fix. Seriously, if God can bring dead plants back to life (<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+17%3A24&amp;version=NLT" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ezekiel 17:24</a>), if He can pull the sea apart into two pieces (<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+14%3A21-22&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Exodus 14:21-22), </a>and He can create fresh food for thousands from scraps (<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+14%3A19-21&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Matthew 14:19-21</a>), don&#8217;t you think He can handle torn flowers, duct tape stickiness, and spoiled food? And yes, our mess-ups in the sexual arena too.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">For too long, I didn&#8217;t believe He would. Maybe I thought God could, but I didn&#8217;t think He would. Now I think: <em>Balderdash</em>!<strong> I think too much of myself and too little of God if I cannot accept His forgiveness for the past, believe in His ability to heal, and embrace the blessings He wants to bestow on my marriage.</strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I really hope these damaged-goods lessons are not still happening. It&#8217;s fine to let singles know that sexual integrity matters, but God matters far more. If I&#8217;d understood God&#8217;s true love for me, maybe I would have waited. It certainly would have been easier.</p>





<h2 class="wp-block-heading">What is sexual purity?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Sexual purity is about following God&#8217;s design for sex, which is holy and healthy sexuality within the covenant of marriage. Yes, that includes waiting until marriage, and we should teach and practice that, because it&#8217;s always better not to have sinned than to have sinned!</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But you&#8217;re not irrevocably damaged or impure if you messed up. Christ purifies us!</p>



<blockquote class="wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow"><p>[Jesus] gave himself for us&nbsp;to redeem us from all wickedness&nbsp;and to purify&nbsp;for himself a people that are his very own,&nbsp;eager to do what is good.</p><cite>Titus 2:14</cite></blockquote>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">And you&#8217;re not guaranteed ease and first-in-line through the pearly gates if you kept your V-card until your wedding night. We live in a fallen world that comes with trouble.</p>



<blockquote class="wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow"><p>“I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace.&nbsp;In this world you will have trouble.&nbsp;But take heart! I have overcome&nbsp;the world.”</p><cite>John 16:33</cite></blockquote>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The question teens and singles tend to ask is &#8220;How far is too far&#8221;? I long ago concluded that was the wrong question. The right question is &#8220;How can I honor God with my body and my life?&#8221;</p>


<hr /><p><em>The question teens and singles tend to ask is &quot;How far is too far&quot;? I long ago concluded that was the wrong question. The right question is &quot;How can I honor God with my body and my life?&quot; #Christiansex #purityculture</em><br /><a href='https://x.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhotholyhumorous.com%2F2021%2F04%2F08%2Fpurity-culture-wrong-and-right%2F&#038;text=The%20question%20teens%20and%20singles%20tend%20to%20ask%20is%20%22How%20far%20is%20too%20far%22%3F%20I%20long%20ago%20concluded%20that%20was%20the%20wrong%20question.%20The%20right%20question%20is%20%22How%20can%20I%20honor%20God%20with%20my%20body%20and%20my%20life%3F%22%20%23Christiansex%20%23purityculture&#038;related' target='_blank' rel="noopener noreferrer" >Share on X</a><br /><hr />


<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Within marriage, it&#8217;s honoring to God to pursue mutually satisfying physical intimacy with your spouse. Whatever you were taught, whatever your history, that should be your present and it can be your future.</p>



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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s talk about modesty. Wait, wait&#8230;don&#8217;t run away! I know you&#8217;ve already read about this subject, probably many times over, and I saw you flinch when I brought it up. But I want to get real about modesty. In fact, I might even rant a little. So read on.</p>
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<p>Modesty is an ongoing issue in our culture. In case you hadn&#8217;t noticed, a lot of women out there show off a lot of their bodies. In today’s world, guys don&#8217;t have to step too far out of their house to see images or real women with curves, cleavage, “camel feet,” and cutaneous membrane (aka <em>skin</em>). Given how visual many men are, it can be a struggle for many of them to keep their thoughts entirely pure.</p>
<p>I feel for them. And so, I&#8217;ve talked to wives about modesty in the past &#8212; how we need to <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2011/07/what-does-modesty-look-like/" target="_blank">choose stylish clothing that covers enough</a>, the care we should take in <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2012/07/6-questions-to-ask-about-your-swimsuit/" target="_blank">choosing swimsuits</a>, even my own practice of sometimes asking my husband when I put something on, &#8220;Is this okay?&#8221; (I learned years ago that he&#8217;s a better barometer for whether a miniskirt is short enough to attract male attention I&#8217;m not looking for.) We certainly don’t want to contribute to the temptation for men to lust.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also been frustrated with women who don’t get it. Like how I was once going through a church potluck line and caught a not-so-brief glimpse of the woman in front of me with her thong peeking out of a low-rise miniskirt. Thank goodness my husband or teenage sons weren&#8217;t in line behind her! I don&#8217;t want my sons or my husband to have such information waved in front of their faces.</p>
<p>1 Timothy 2:9-10 says: “<em>Also, the women are to dress themselves in <u>modest</u> clothing, with <u>decency and good sense</u>, not with elaborate hairstyles, gold, pearls, or expensive apparel, but with good works, as is proper for women who affirm that they worship God</em>” (HCSB, emphasis added). Women should be modest, for the sake of the men in their midst and to honor God’s will.</p>
<p><hr /><p><em>Women should be modest, for the sake of the men in their midst and to honor God’s will.</em><br /><a href='https://x.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhotholyhumorous.com%2F2017%2F04%2F10%2Fdo-our-yoga-pants-make-men-sin%2F&#038;text=Women%20should%20be%20modest%2C%20for%20the%20sake%20of%20the%20men%20in%20their%20midst%20and%20to%20honor%20God%E2%80%99s%20will.&#038;via=hotholyhumorous&#038;related=hotholyhumorous' target='_blank' rel="noopener noreferrer" >Share on X</a><br /><hr /></p>
<p>However &#8230; not too long ago, I was reading a post that mentioned modesty and some blessed wife had as part of her comments something like, &#8220;But please don&#8217;t take my yoga pants. You have no idea how nice it is to be in something comfortable &#8230;&#8221; (I wish I could find that comment!) I laughed and found myself agreeing. I often wear yoga pants and a T-shirt while working at home and doing laundry. And then, I need to run out to the store. So am I supposed to change from yoga pants, even when my shirt covers almost the whole backside? Seems a bit silly to me.</p>
<p>And yet you can find entire articles castigating women for wearing yoga pants. In another post written to women about modesty, two men in the comments said they&#8217;d basically been visually assaulted by women wearing yoga pants in their presence. Really? Is the prevalence of yoga pants the downfall of otherwise good Christian husbands?</p>
<p>Job 31:1 says, “<em>I made a covenant with my eyes not to look lustfully at a young woman</em>.” And I fully appreciate men who take this covenant to heart. Many Christian husbands are dedicated to keeping their minds pure and avoiding visual temptation.</p>
<p>But my thinking about modesty and lust is changing. Partly because I see so much blame placed on women for men lusting. I’m not letting us women off the hook for needing to use decency and good sense when we go out in public. However, I don’t see men getting the same flack for how they present themselves in public. If you want to see what I mean, read this humorous post on “<a href="http://thesaltcollective.org/modesty-whensuitsbecomestumblingblock/" target="_blank">When Suits Become a Stumbling Block: A Plea to My Brothers in Christ</a>.” Men in suits are attractive. So are men in uniforms. I mean really, how could any man proclaim to be a holy Christian if he’s also a well-built firefighter in uniform? Don’t you know what you’re doing to us?!</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve also preached this modesty message so much to teens that some of them probably think Psalm 119:9 reads: &#8220;How can a young man keep his way pure? By &#8216;bouncing his eyes.'&#8221; No, no, no. It says: &#8220;<em>How can a young man keep his way pure? By keeping Your word</em>.&#8221;</p>
<p>What <em>does</em> the Word of God say about modesty?</p>
<p>In addition to the verses referenced above, not a whole lot. Here’s a quick run-down:</p>
<p>“<em>The Lord says,<br />
‘The women of Zion are haughty,<br />
walking along with outstretched necks,<br />
flirting with their eyes,<br />
strutting along with swaying hips,<br />
with ornaments jingling on their ankles</em>.’”</p>
<p>(Isaiah 3:16; and verses 17-24 explains you how God will punish those women)</p>
<p>“<em>Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as elaborate hairstyles and the wearing of gold jewelry or fine clothes</em>” (1 Peter 3:3).</p>
<p>And that’s it. At least specifically regarding modest apparel. Of course, there are principles of modest and God-honoring behaviors. We also have scriptures that talk about not being a stumbling block to others, about building up our brothers and sisters in Christ, about living with reverence before God. Obviously, if you’re walking around in low-rise shorts with your bum hanging out, that’s not exactly an advertisement for Christianity. (And, by the way, you’re essentially wearing your underwear in public; they might be expensive denim, but you’re in undies. Stop that.)</p>
<p>But you know what else the Bible says? It says to treat people with respect, to look beyond their appearance and see them how God sees them, to purify our minds and our hearts in Christ Jesus.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve become really bothered by the idea that men are just bouncing their eyes off every woman who shows a little more cleavage than they want to see or who ran up to the grocery store on the fly in her yoga pants to grab much-needed diapers for her infant. Doesn&#8217;t that pigeonhole women’s bodies as temptation? As if “A<em>nd lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one</em>” (Matthew 6:13) is referring to women’s curves or yoga pants. Doesn&#8217;t that approach have the potential of objectifying women as well?</p>
<p>Rather, how did Jesus treat women who were immodest in their lives? Jesus let a sinful woman anoint his feet with oil and spoke directly to her to forgive her sins (<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+7%3A36-50&amp;version=NIV">Luke 7:36-50</a>). He had a direct conversation about faith with the Samaritan woman who’d been married five times and living with a man outside of marriage (<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+4%3A1-26&amp;version=NIV">John 4:1-26</a>). He refused to condemn a woman caught in adultery and encouraged her to stop sinning (<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john+8%3A1-11&amp;version=NIV">John 8:1-11</a>). Jesus looked past their immodesty and saw the woman His Father saw.</p>
<p>Which makes me think that maybe we’re missing something.</p>
<p>Maybe the problem is only partly what someone’s wearing and more what our hearts are doing. Is the test whether we can look at each other as sex objects or whether we can see the person underneath?</p>
<p><hr /><p><em>Maybe the problem is only partly what someone’s wearing &amp; more what our hearts are doing. </em><br /><a href='https://x.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhotholyhumorous.com%2F2017%2F04%2F10%2Fdo-our-yoga-pants-make-men-sin%2F&#038;text=Maybe%20the%20problem%20is%20only%20partly%20what%20someone%E2%80%99s%20wearing%20%26%20more%20what%20our%20hearts%20are%20doing.%20&#038;via=hotholyhumorous&#038;related=hotholyhumorous' target='_blank' rel="noopener noreferrer" >Share on X</a><br /><hr /></p>
<p>This is by no means meant to let women, and men, off the hook for dressing modestly. But you how about we hear a little about how men dress and behave in public? And how about taking responsibility for our own thoughts and hearts?</p>
<p>If you can’t have a conversation with a woman who shows too much cleavage or a guy in your gym who’s muscled and shirtless, you’re going to have a really, really, really hard time in this world. And it’s not entirely the world’s fault.</p>
<p>We have to own our responsibility to not lust. And if it’s hard? Well, being a Christian isn&#8217;t supposed to be eating-cupcakes-easy all the time. (What did you think that verse about taking up your cross meant? <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+16%3A24&amp;version=ESV">Matthew 16:24</a>.)</p>
<p><hr /><p><em>We have to own our responsibility to not lust.</em><br /><a href='https://x.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhotholyhumorous.com%2F2017%2F04%2F10%2Fdo-our-yoga-pants-make-men-sin%2F&#038;text=We%20have%20to%20own%20our%20responsibility%20to%20not%20lust.&#038;via=hotholyhumorous&#038;related=hotholyhumorous' target='_blank' rel="noopener noreferrer" >Share on X</a><br /><hr /></p>
<p>As for me, you might see in my yoga pants at the grocery store. Not because I’m wanting any guy to get a full-view of my caboose, but because they’re comfortable and I was too lazy to change. However, I will make sure I’m wearing a long T-shirt to cover everything that should be covered. And if I have any doubts about how I might come across, I check with my husband, because he has a better sense of those things at times.</p>
<p>I suspect plenty of other women, good Christian wives even, will be dressed in exercise or lounge attire as well. And we hope you can still have a nice conversation with us. Because that is nothing like the immodesty of the women Jesus dealt with, and He managed to handle it all just fine.</p>
<p>We believe in you guys. We don’t want to tempt you, but we also believe that &#8212; with God’s help &#8212; you can keep your minds and hearts where they should be.</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2017/04/10/do-our-yoga-pants-make-men-sin/">Do Our Yoga Pants Make Men Sin?</a> appeared first on <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com">Hot, Holy &amp; Humorous</a>.</p>
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		<title>What I Thought About Swimsuits in 1993</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2016 13:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a magnet for clutter. Paperwork seeks me out like a missile locating its target. On any given day, I feel that I must apologize for the state of my desk. And let&#8217;s not even discuss how badly I need to go through my files. But as I was (finally) attacking some of the clutter, [&#8230;]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a magnet for clutter. Paperwork seeks me out like a missile locating its target. On any given day, I feel that I must apologize for the state of my desk. And let&#8217;s not even discuss how badly I need to go through my files.</p>
<p>But as I was (finally) attacking some of the clutter, I came upon a couple of notebook pages of a journal-like entry dated May 1993. I was shocked to find I&#8217;d written almost 300 words about body image, modesty, and swimsuits. I decided to share it [with minor editing] here.</p>
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<p><em>I struggle with the fashion industry’s view of what clothes are to do. I thought clothes were to cover and enhance. Try shopping for a swimsuit with that in mind. Most swimsuits either look like they should be worn by your grandmother or a Sports Illustrated model.</em></p>
<p><em>So forget the grandma thing.</em></p>
<p><em>Everything else unveils rather than covers. I’d be afraid to jump into the water for fear that I’ll lose my modesty to the nearest wave.</em></p>
<p><em>Modesty is not big in the fashion industry. Suppose I wear an itsy-bitsy, teeny-weeny bikini. Does this actually enhance? I will now have to shave my “bikini area,” which always brings on a painful red rash hanging past my immodest bikini bottoms for all to see. I guess I could opt for electrolysis…yeah, right! Who said beauty was worth that kind of pain?! Who said a naked bikini area equals beauty?</em></p>
<p><em>Let’s go back to the modesty thing. Even if I solve the bikini area dilemma, I’m stuck with the constant game of tug and pull. I take a couple of laps in the pool, and as I’m leaving I’m pulling down the back of those bottoms, the bottom of my top, and up on the top of my bottoms. Makes you not even want to enter the pool.</em></p>
<p><em>If some other woman wishes to inflict self-torture, fine. But I quarrel with the fashion industry for not offering options.</em></p>
<p><em>I want swim shorts, like men. Speedos have been on the market for years, but most men opt for trunks. They won’t fall for that skimpy look thing. They demand comfort. Women demand tug and pull.</em></p>
<p>Well, they have swim shorts now. And swim skirts. Maybe someone in the fashion industry actually paid attention to what some of us wanted.</p>
<p>However, I still see the majority of women&#8217;s swimsuit departments inundated with swimsuits that neither cover nor enhance. Thankfully, I&#8217;ve learned a thing or two about shopping for swimsuits. Since it&#8217;s mid-June &#8212; and absolutely beach weather where I live &#8212; I wanted to once again share what I&#8217;ve written about modesty and swimsuit shopping:</p>
<p><a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2011/07/what-does-modesty-look-like/" target="_blank">What Does Modesty Look Like?</a></p>
<p><a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2012/07/6-questions-to-ask-about-your-swimsuit/" target="_blank">6 Questions to Ask about Your Swimsuit</a></p>
<p><a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2013/06/swimsuit-shopping-without-weeping-and-wailing/" target="_blank">Swimsuit Shopping (without Weeping and Wailing)</a></p>
<p><strong>What about you? How do you approach modesty and swimsuits? Have you found a good solution? And has your opinion changed since 1993?</strong></p>
<p>The post <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com/2016/06/20/what-i-thought-about-swimsuits-in-1993/">What I Thought About Swimsuits in 1993</a> appeared first on <a href="https://hotholyhumorous.com">Hot, Holy &amp; Humorous</a>.</p>
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		<title>Revisiting the Question: What Is Modesty Really?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 14:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>First published July 2011 When my husband and I first got married, I owned this cute little black skirt that showed off my personal best asset &#8212; my legs. I had bought it on sale at a store where I didn&#8217;t usually have the money to shop, and I loved the way I looked in [&#8230;]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>First published July 2011</i></p>
<p>When my husband and I first got married, I owned this cute little black skirt that showed off my personal best asset &#8212; my legs. I had bought it on sale at a store where I didn&#8217;t usually have the money to shop, and I loved the way I looked in that skirt.</p>
<p>My hubby asked me to get rid of it. What?! Are you kidding?! He said that it was too short, and he didn&#8217;t like other guys seeing that much of me. Hmmm.</p>
<p>Frankly, I&#8217;d always thought of myself as being relatively modest. I never wore a bikini; always a one-piece. I didn&#8217;t wear low-cut blouses, even if I didn&#8217;t have the cleavage to spill out anyway. I didn&#8217;t squeeze myself into clothing two sizes too small or wear dresses with cut-outs on the sides. But I had to take his word for it&#8211;his male perspective on what draws a man&#8217;s attention in an inappropriate way.</p>
<p>When I look around now, I sometimes can&#8217;t believe the eye candy that we dangle in front of men&#8217;s eyes and then expect them to pay attention to our inner goodness. I was at a church luncheon once (I repeat, church luncheon, for heaven&#8217;s sake!) and saw a woman lean over to get her food, drawing up her blouse and giving a peek at the black thong coming out of her skirt. She probably had no idea.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s the point. We ladies are not always great at gauging what is appropriate to wear publicly. The newest fashions come out, everyone&#8217;s wearing them, they make us look good, and we buy. We are often not even aware that the micro-mini reveals too much when we sit across from a male co-worker or that a loose blouse is giving a glimpse of our lacy bra to the waiter at our table. We don&#8217;t even think like that.</p>
<p>So we have to start thinking like that. We have to pause and ask whether what we are wearing is going to encourage temptation to lust for men around us. Yes, I know men lust anyway. My father swore that young men can find a way to lust after women wearing potato sacks, but we should make it easier for guys to focus on what is most important.</p>
<p><b>SOME THINGS MODESTY IS NOT.</b></p>
<p><strong>Modesty is not backward</strong>. Modesty is not dressing like you are from past century in a fruitless attempt to turn back time and keep things on the up-and-up.</p>
<p><strong>Modesty is not frumpy</strong>. Wearing sweat pants and crew neck t-shirts all the time will cover everything, but that is not a look that presents the best you.</p>
<p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter" style="border-width: 0px; border-color: currentColor; border-style: none;" alt="Reverend fun cartoon" src="https://i0.wp.com/4.bp.blogspot.com/-8hgi0ZEHJl8/UbTvYJmn32I/AAAAAAAABj8/W7HSV_v6sLY/s320/modesty.gif?resize=320%2C271" width="320" height="271" border="0" /></p>
<p><strong>Modesty is not old</strong>. A 30 year old need not dress like her grandmother to maintain a modicum of modesty.</p>
<p><strong>Modesty is not gender-neutral</strong>. Straight clothes that hide that you are, hello!, a woman is not modesty.</p>
<p><b>WHAT MODESTY IS.</b></p>
<p><strong>Modesty is covering up skin best reserved for your spouse</strong>. If you aren&#8217;t sure whether it&#8217;s appropriate, ask him. Do NOT ask, “Do you like me in this dress?” He might say, “I LOVE you in that dress (and out of it).” Ask where the dress makes him look. Does the dress draw attention to areas best left for his eyes only? Ask if he is comfortable with how much of you will be revealed to others.</p>
<p><strong>Modesty is dressing like the beautiful woman you are</strong>. You are a woman with a womanly shape; it is okay to wear something that demonstrates that you have a figure. But fitted and tight-fitting are quite different. Don&#8217;t get hung up on the numbered size of a garment (sizes vary so much by manufacturer); find what fits you right.</p>
<p><strong>Modesty is fashionable</strong>. Yes, you can find styles that are fashionable and modest. Teenagers in particular may have to treat clothes shopping like hunting an endangered species, but it is possible.</p>
<p><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter" style="border-width: 0px; border-color: currentColor; border-style: none;" alt="Reverend Fun cartoon" src="https://i0.wp.com/3.bp.blogspot.com/-YnzC9c2CVNQ/UbTuxDRECpI/AAAAAAAABj4/IdEyUTJ1dAU/s320/Eve%2527s%2Bfall%2Bline.gif?resize=320%2C254" width="320" height="254" border="0" /></p>
<p><strong>Modesty is keeping your underclothes under your clothes</strong>. For some reason, I feel the overwhelming compulsion to state this. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s backward to presume that bras, panties, etc. should not be as visible to the public as your brand-new haircut.</p>
<p>If you struggle with what makes you look beautiful and fashionable without falling into inappropriate styles, I recommend going online and looking for tips on dressing your body type. Frankly, in the few episodes I&#8217;ve seen of What Not to Wear, the experts did an excellent job of dressing women in clothes that highlighted their best parts and kept everything tucked in as it should be. (Mind you, I cannot speak to the series as a whole since I don&#8217;t get that channel!)</p>
<p>Pause and think about what you&#8217;re wearing. Think about whether it&#8217;s honoring your husband. Think about whether it&#8217;s helping another woman&#8217;s husband keep his eyes on his own wife. And then go out there and be the fashionista that you are!</p>
<p>Remembering, of course, that your inner beauty is what matters most.</p>
<p><i>Thanks to Warrior Wives for bringing this post to my mind again. Join the conversation with <a href="http://www.thewarriorwives.com/2013/06/lets-chat-discerning-modesty-standards.html" target="_blank">Let&#8217;s Chat: Discerning Modesty Standards with Your Husband</a>.</i></p>
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